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From: Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E]
Date: May 16, 2016 8:49AM

Dragon has definitely come along way! Here at the NIH, we're getting ready to roll-out Microsoft Office 2016, as part of Office 365. I was able to accomplish nearly all tasks within Outlook 2016 without once using the keyboard! Granted, there has been some ‘user error' in the past ☺ and my own learning, but I'm sure that neither Dragon nor Microsoft Office were up to this a couple of years ago. Just clearly reinforces that both AT vendors and ‘mainstream' software firms need to work with one another as they each further develop their products, to remain compatible and to improve the accessibility and usability of each companies' products.

I agree – this list is awesome, I look forward to reading it every day! Not a day goes by that I don't learn something that stretches my knowledge.

Gary
http://508.nih.gov



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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Trouble with a menu in Druple

Hi Gary,
I was really glad you asked that question, because I should be more specific-as we both know accessible can mean so many things! I totally agree with what you said below, and it is important to be reminded. Today I was talking about videos and sign language...many people forget about sign language when talking about videos, but also documents...As well, many people with dyslexia or ADD use screen readers, so it is really important to get the details right!
I want to research more about speech recognition, because the tools have become so much better (I used Dragon when it came out, and it wasn't pretty...) that I think way more people are using it daily. I don't see much out there on it, so thanks for sharing on the list. This list is awesome!
Cheers
Lisa


On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E] < <EMAIL REMOVED> <mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> >> wrote:
Hi, Lisa – my question about Superfish was really meant to be rhetorical – to raise the issue that the word "accessible" is used without clear definition or clarification, as if everyone agrees with what it means – typically, in terms of ScreenReaders and vision loss, assuming no one else with any other impairment or disability needs to be considered.

As a speech recognition user, keyboard navigation doesn't really help – not unless each keystroke or key combination is mapped to an oral command. My point, hopefully ‘of course', is that not everyone who's disabled is blind/sight impaired, and not everyone who uses AT is using vision-related AT.

W/best regards,

Gary

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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Trouble with a menu in Druple

Hi Gary,
Great questions, thanks. The people I know who have worked on it for their own websites concentrated on screen reader users (I can't tell you which ones they tested as that part I don't know). I can say that I have read that the menus seem to work well with keyboard navigation right out of the box.

I was looking at it about 2 years ago and decided to go with PVII instead:
http://projectseven.com/products/index.htm
No endorsement on either of them, but PVII have been accessibility friendly for years (they were pretty good for limited dexterity, screen readers, no js, keyboard only). Only problem was that PVII doesn't do a module, so Superfish is easier to install because of it....
I would love to know if anyone has tested Superfish with speech recognition software, as that I have not seen anywhere.
Sorry I wasn't clear, I should be more specific-thanks for the reminder!
Cheers
Lisa