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From: Angela French
Date: Dec 2, 2016 9:28AM

I have done that sort of thing when I hand coded sites, but with CMSs this is not an option for the typical web editor.

Angela French

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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Julie Chan Watson
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] advice on page with Non-distinguishable links

Hi
I read a great article about the use of the title attribute on links, and how screen readers handle them.
Advice was to not use them as they are not read out by screen readers, unless there is no link text at all.
Recommendation was to add all the text you need as the link text, and put <span> around the screen reader specific bits. and hide from other users with css.

https://silktide.com/i-thought-title-text-improved-accessibility-i-was-wrong/ <https://silktide.com/i-thought-title-text-improved-accessibility-i-was-wrong/>


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Julie Chan Watson
Web Developer
Corporate Information & Computing Services (CiCS) The University of Sheffield


> On 30 Nov 2016, at 19:46, Jonathan Avila < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
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>> That's correct. SC 2.4.4 Link Purpose (In Context) does not require the link text itself to determine its purpose.
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> The thinking behind this was that a screen reader user could keep their focus on the link and use other common screen reader commands to access other contextual information. For example, screen readers often provide commands to read the header, sentence, paragraph, and list item without requiring the user to move focus.
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> As for the links list -- I'd consider that a feature request to screen reader vendors. As far as I know even if title is used JAWS will only display the title in the list of links if there isn't link text there already. Aria-label should work.
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:37 PM
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> That's correct. SC 2.4.4 Link Purpose (In Context) does not require the link text itself to determine its purpose. The AAA violation, SC 2.49 Link Purpose (Link Only), is what requires the link text by itself provide the context.
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> I would consider it to be a Best Practice, however, to provide additional information, but it is not something I would penalize someone for.
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> On 11/30/16, 2:31 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Angela French" < <EMAIL REMOVED> on behalf of <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
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> Even though in links list mode a screen reader user wouldn't have that context?
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> The column headers add that context. Therefore, the title attributes are unnecessary.
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> On 11/30/16, 2:08 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Angela French" < <EMAIL REMOVED> on behalf of <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
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> What about in a table like this? http://www.sbctc.edu/our-colleges/college-contact-list.aspx . Do you think title attributes are necessary or does the table provide adequate context?
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:55 AM
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> Hi Angela,
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> This is assuming that you are following level AA and not AAA. If you have a look at SC 2.4.4 Link Purpose (In Context), you'll find the following sufficient technique: H33: Supplementing link text with the title attribute. Therefore, if you add a title attribute to each link and include the year as its value, then it will satisfy this success criterion.
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> Another technique that is not included as a sufficient technique is using the heading itself as the context for the links, or even the name of the region or landmark in which it's contained. I would like to ask others what their thoughts are about this. If that is deemed sufficient, then you have already satisfied it.
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> On 11/30/16, 12:39 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Angela French" < <EMAIL REMOVED> on behalf of <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
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> Hello,
> I'm looking for some advice on how we might be able to remedy the Non-distinguishable Links errors on a page I'm working on.
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> The page consists of Year headings and underneath each year is a set of links to documents. These documents are titled the same for each year:
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> * Introductions
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> * Enrollments
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> * Selected Programs
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> * Student Progress and Success
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> * Etc.
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> This results in numerous link labels that are the same but go to different destinations. Short of adding the year to each link label, is there another way to handle this? Adding the year would seem to add unnecessary visual and aural redundancy.
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> Thanks!
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