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From: JP Jamous
Date: Jan 10, 2017 2:43PM

Thank you Nick. That is very helpful.

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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Beranek, Nicholas
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Frames differ by browser

It's a little tricky to find as it's embedded within the Windows SDK as Inspect32.exe. If you can find it, then it is a very powerful tool. I have done some basic testing with JAWS and it appears to be a simple Tree View with adjacent panel containing the accessibility information for the focused element.

You could try aViewer instead as it presents you the same information and is readily available:

https://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/aviewer/

Nick

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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Frames differ by browser

1. I assumed that she has control over the page inside the frame. If not, then the only solution I have been able to come up with was aria-label rather than the Iframe title. I don't like it, but thanks to the SR manufacturers, it solves the issue.
2. I have not had the chance to mess with the MSAA viewer. That is one of the things on my list. Is it accessible with JAWS?

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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 12:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Frames differ by browser

What if you don't have direct control over the contents of the <iframe>? I think it's prudent to maintain both the <title> of the framed content as well as the title attribute on the <iframe>. Thoughts?

As for the discrepancies between each browser, it's a possibility that they're calculating the accessible name for the frame differently. Have you ever used the MSAA Object Inspect tool to verify what is being calculated by the accessibility API?

Nick

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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Frames differ by browser

Sharon,

Try to remove the page title inside the frame.
<Title></title>

Use the iframe title to set what you want it to state. That should work with JAWS and Internet Explorer.

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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Sharon M Trerise
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:05 AM
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Subject: [WebAIM] Frames differ by browser

Can someone help me understand why the frame names appear to be different for different browsers? I'm looking at DegreeWorks and when I list the frames in JAWS (Insert F9) I get 3 different lists depending on which browser I am using: IE, Firefox or Chrome. I believe I am listing the frames from the same entry point in each browser.

Thanks.

Sharon

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