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Re: Creating a parallel PPT when the original is a mess??
From: Ryan E. Benson
Date: Jun 25, 2017 1:55PM
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> We get those when textbook authors make animated charts and graphs with
accompanying equations. In remediation we're trying to group all those
hundreds of little bits into single objects, but we certainly receive them
with the Bazillion Layers of Death.
To be honest, I can't understand this. Where I work, we have limitations on
both add-ons and animations, so I am guessing this is curbed some. I am
usually not in the role of actually fixing stuff, but more than likely
tell the person to use another tool to build their animation, then insert
it as a flat image.
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Ryan E. Benson
On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Mallory < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > "The only way I can think a PPT having thousands of layers, would be if
> each slide had its own look," /unquote
>
> Animations are a big reason to have a bazillion layers on a single
> slide. I mean normally there's only a few layers but sometimes they get
> nuts.
>
> We get those when textbook authors make animated charts and graphs with
> accompanying equations. In remediation we're trying to group all those
> hundreds of little bits into single objects, but we certainly receive
> them with the Bazillion Layers of Death.
>
> And because the stuff they're showing is complex data, one of our
> recommendations to vendors doing remediation for us in the worse cases
> is to have an accompanying HTML document with long descriptions and any
> normally-accessible structures like complex tables (seriously,
> Powerpoint tables suck and simply aren't very accessible. They're almost
> a little bit usable with JAWS if you don't add alt text, but you've got
> to add alt text (NVDA has a longstanding bug on PPTX tables) which JAWS
> then seems to prefer instead of table navigation (which, again, is
> almost okay but still mostly sucks and still works best in Edit Mode
> where people have the perfect opportunity to accidentally edit the data
> they're merely trying to read)).
>
> Especially tables containing Math OLEs (written in MathType), images
> (some of which would have long alts), and little line graphs. Making
> these in PowerPoint is almost a waste of time, but someone somewhere
> does it for a course and then if we honestly want to give students
> usable and comprehensible data then an HTML document bundled with the
> PPTX is the only sane thing to do at this point. At least until
> Microsoft does some vast improvements in the future, for which I'm not
> holding my breath.
>
> Oh and I hate powerpoints. I would almost want to recommend Wolfram
> notebook files except those aren't accessible either, but the code
> behind them is at least sane.
>
> cheers,
> Mallory
>
> > >
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