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Re: Accessible pagination?

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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Nov 6, 2017 6:53AM


Agree with Tim.
I think "go to page 1" is a goo screen reader text for pagination links.
The screen reader does not see the ARIA landmark when viewing links
out of context, e.g. in a listbox, and "1" is not vry descriptive link
text.
The extra second or so that it takes the screen rader to say "page 1"
or "go to page 1" is not a screen reader user deterrant in my
experience (again, testing with real end users is always the most
valuable source of feedback).

I wish the author ha expounded a bit on this widget, e.g. showed it in
context of an actual page. I think "previous" and "Next" options e.
should b cded as buttons to distinguish them from the links, and that
the number of results per page should be coded as live region
headings.



On 11/6/17, Tim Harshbarger < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Just to offer another perspective, I do not think that this pattern is too
> verbose or problematic as a screen reader user. For me, too verbose is
> something like a group label for radio buttons that is a paragraph long.
> That tends to feel verbose. However, I know other screen reader users might
> feel differently.
>
> My thought is that if you follow this pattern, someone using a screen reader
> would clearly get the idea that this part of the page is the pagination. I
> also think you could use only parts of this pattern and end up with
> something that might be accessible as well, but depending on what you do it
> might not be as clear to screen reader users who don't spend their days
> reviewing, discussing, and testing user interfaces like I do.
>
> This is one of those situations where being able to test with real end users
> would help. You could find out if there are any major differences between
> patterns.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf
> Of Bim Egan
> Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 5:22 PM
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible pagination?
>
> I agree, identifying each link as "Page 1" etc makes it more difficult to
> select the link from a links list ... They all begin with P instead of each
> being uniquely first letter pickable by number. I'm not keen on the term
> Pagination either, users are more likely to understand "Other pages" "more
> results" or similar. The principle's good, but overdone.
>
> Bim
> having the
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf
> Of Jeremy Echols
> Sent: 03 November 2017 22:09
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: [WebAIM] Accessible pagination?
>
> I'm looking at this article: http://www.a11ymatters.com/pattern/pagination/
>
> It seems like the author is suggesting extremely verbose pagination for
> non-sighted users. This feels like a lot of extra noise to me, but I'm not
> an AT user, so I really don't know. It seems like once you get into the
> region, you'll know that the region is for pagination navigation (as per
> the
> aria-label on the "ul" element). Is there really a need to label every one
> of those "Goto Page X"? I could see an argument for "Page X", but even
> that
> feels like unnecessary verbosity.
>
> Help!
> > > http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
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