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From: John Hicks
Date: Nov 14, 2017 6:52AM


... and no one's done the dishes for 20 years ...

2017-11-14 11:59 GMT+01:00 JP Jamous < <EMAIL REMOVED> >:

> Thank you Karl. I was never aware of this term until now.
>
> It sounds like a problem to A11Y. First we had breadcrumbs and now toast.
> What is next? Apple pie? Never mind. They already used that term too. Pie
> chart. It looks like the kitchen is now on our desktops.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> Behalf Of Karl Brown
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:51 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] toast accessibility
>
> https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/11998/what-is-a-toast-notification
>
> And here I was thinking toast was something I had for breakfast :-/
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 10:29 AM, John Hicks < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
> > The totp crowd were really grooving to that one !
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-11-14 1:14 GMT+01:00 Steve Green < <EMAIL REMOVED> >:
> >
> > > This song about toast was a UK top 20 chart hit in 1978. They don't
> > > make them like this anymore, which is perhaps no bad thing.
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJmKStqugMc
> > >
> > > Steve Green
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> > > Behalf Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
> > > Sent: 13 November 2017 22:15
> > > To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] toast accessibility
> > >
> > > 1. Entirely unrelated to accessibility, but this song about toast
> > > has
> > been
> > > a household favorite for years:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHptn_3RyYE
> > > 2. Could you create an example of the type of goast messages you
> > > describe (or are they accessible on a public facing site you are
> working on)?
> > Short
> > > of not using toasts at all, your list looks really good (it looks
> > > like
> > you
> > > guys took care of all the accessibility implications).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/13/17, Ugurcan Kutluoglu < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > > > Hi Jennison,
> > > >
> > > > In addition to using an "assertive" live region and the other
> > > > usual techniques for screen reader users, we do the following on our
> toasts.
> > > >
> > > > 1- Avoiding using them, if possible. We prefer using an user
> > > > dismissible notification bar, with a close button, on top of the
> page.
> > > > 2- Using text length for calculating the amount of time the toast
> > > > remains on screen. It's currently 3 seconds plus 60 milliseconds
> > > > per
> > > character.
> > > > 3- Toasts don't disappear if mouse pointer is hovering over them
> > > > 4- Making sure we are not relying on color to convey different
> > > > toast states. i.e Error, Warning and Success toasts have different
> > > > icons in addition to different colors.
> > > > 5- Making sure they have a visible border in Windows High Contrast
> > mode.
> > > > 6- No toast messages on page load. We wait at least 5 seconds
> > > > before showing a toast.
> > > >
> > > > Ugi
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Jennison Mark Asuncion <
> > > > <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'd like to hear from folks who have created accessible toasts,
> > > >> including for but not limited to screen reader users. I'm
> > > >> particularly interested in how you've dealt with the practical
> > > >> reality that the intent of the toast is to only briefly show a
> > > >> message and then have it disappear.
> > > >>
> > > >> Jennison
> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >> > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > >
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>
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