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From: L Snider
Date: Feb 6, 2018 9:21AM

Hi Sharon,

Holy moly, now I see why you wanted to go back to a PowerPoint! Was it
tagged? Or did you need to tag it?

For anything converted to a PDF, for me, I never use the word automatic...a
bit easier maybe, but that would be as far as I would go.

You would still need to do work in the PDF to make it WCAG, and even more
work to make it PDF/UA. I assume since you mentioned ADA, you are going for
WCAG, a bit less work but still some work in PDF. Plus, then there is the
reflow and tag orders, which should be okay if the PowerPoint was done
well, but again this depends on many things (in my experience).

Cheers

Lisa

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Terzian, Sharon < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Hi Lisa, well it was sent to me to fix as a PDF, it's 24 pages and came
> from a Power Point. It has up to 100 items/errors to fix on EACH page, as
> in it deals with every piece of every graphic as a separate entity. On
> several pages, there are bulleted lists, all with designs behind them. And
> the order is a nightmare with up for (again) 100 things to either ignore or
> put in order. I know that it's easier to do in Power Point (as far as
> order, etc) even if I started over and cut and pasted each 'piece' instead
> of wrangling with it. Since it's also going to be translated into several
> other languages, I was just curious to know if it started as a full
> accessible (tagged, ordered, etc) Power Point, would it automatically be
> fine as a PDF.
> And yes I have the full, paid version of Adobe.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] couple of questions
>
> Hi Sharon,
>
> NVDA is pretty important as well. If you haven't seen this survey already,
> it shows what some people are using.
> https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/
>
> In my experience the use of products depends on country, region, local
> preferences. However, I do see JAWS and NVDA used the most. Windows-Eyes
> was popular in places I lived, but that is now JAWS.
>
> Also magnification and voice recognition (ex:Dragon) are important for
> testing.
>
> Moodle is much better than it was and Blackboard as well. Both have made
> significant improvements the last two years. However, interactive can still
> be a problem, as you mentioned. It all depends what you want to do.
>
> Can you expand on why the PDF is problematic? I am curious why you are
> thinking of converting it back if the PowerPoint was okay.
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Terzian, Sharon < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> > Hi
> > I have to adapt a PDF that came from a Power Point to be ADA compliant
> > (I know how to do it, this was outsourced to me).
> >
> > If the Power Point was ADA to begin with (tagged/ordered correctly,
> > etc) would it automatically be okay when converted/saved to a PDF
> > (it's a nightmare in PDF and I can get it as Power Point file if it
> helps)?
> > They also will be translating it to several languages so I thought
> > that if it's fine in Power Point, that part would be easier/less time
> > consuming as well.
> >
> > A Colleague uses a program called Articulate - Story Lines (
> > https://articulate.com/award-winning-storyline-360) to create
> > interactive learning modules. When she started using it, I spent time
> > on the phone with the vendor, who initially sold it as being ADA and
> > it's not (JAWS can't read it, essentially it ends up being a fancy
> > flash file and if I try and adjust the backend HTML code, it won't
> > work), and after our conversation, they admitted it wasn't.
> >
> > Are there any true compliant course module creators out there that you
> > know of?
> > Also, just in case not, I'm looking into other screen readers for less
> > money. Is JAWS still the be all and end all as far as having
> > documents/websites work well with it?
> > I found NVDA and a friend mentioned ZoomText.
> >
> > Thank you all,
> >
> > Sharon Terzian
> > Webmistress/Accessible Content/Sherlock Center Adjunct
> > Professor/CIS/College of Business Rhode Island College
> > www.sherlockcenter.org
> >
> >
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