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Re: [EXTERNAL]Decorative image or not in a search listing?

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From: Isabel Holdsworth
Date: Apr 19, 2018 2:47AM

I'm with Glen on this one. The image sounds like it's decorative, in
which case I would expect to be able to glean enough info from the
headline and supporting text to decide whether I want to read the fill
story or not.

On 18/04/2018, glen walker < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> If the alt text in the original story ends up being the same text as the
> headline, then you'd have duplicate information to skip over, which could
> be annoying.
>
> It's certainly personal preference but I normally choose to check the
> headline or digest text to determine whether to read an article, and not an
> image.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:45 PM, Tim Harshbarger <
> <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
>> TO me, it seems like the image is being shown as part of the listing to
>> help users decide if that is the story they want to click on. If that is
>> the case, then the image seems like it would only be decorative if the
>> image in the original story is decorative.
>>
>> I would think it would be better just to use whatever alt text was
>> provided for that image in the original story.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
>> Behalf Of glen walker
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:28 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [WebAIM] Decorative image or not in a search
>> listing?
>>
>> Good catch, Jeremy. I was assuming the images were not a link so I didn't
>> mention it.
>>
>> And as a tangent, hopefully the site only has one link to each story,
>> instead of two (or more) that all point to the same location. I'm
>> guessing
>> the headline is the only link. (Is the headline a heading, a la <h2>?)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Jeremy Echols < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I agree with Glen unless the images are links. If so, and there's no
>> > other link text, they would have to have something in the alt attribute.
>> > Though the better fix would be to make the <a> element wrap around both
>> the
>> > image and the headline so that the image is once again just decorative.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
>> > glen walker
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:03 AM
>> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Decorative image or not in a search listing?
>> >
>> > I agree with your thought on not including it. If the image does not
>> > add
>> > anything other than visual candy, it can be helpful to have a null alt
>> > so
>> > that it doesn't clutter up the images that do have meaning. If I
>> navigate
>> > with the G key, or bring up the list of images with Ctrl+Ins+G, I
>> wouldn't
>> > want the "eye candy" images in that list (speaking as a personal
>> > preference). I know I can bring up a list of links or headings to find
>> the
>> > articles. I don't need another way to navigate to them.
>> >
>> > These thoughts are only relative to your specific example. There are
>> > cases where I recommend having alt text on eye candy because it can be
>> > helpful or enjoyable.
>> >
>> > Glen
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Joe Allen-Black < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm having an internal debate on how to best guide the setup of alt
>> > > text on a listing page. I would love the group's opinions.
>> > >
>> > > The page I am looking at is a listing of news articles. Each article
>> > > has a headline, digest text, and then a lead image from the article.
>> > > The headline and digest give proper information about what the article
>> > > is about.
>> > >
>> > > I'm wondering about the need to include alt text with the image or go
>> > > with an alt=""
>> > >
>> > > My thought to keep alt text is that it is content, so strong alt text
>> > > would give more information to visitor.
>> > >
>> > > My thought for not including it is that the image is decorative in a
>> way.
>> > > It doesn't aid in understanding (even if the alt text was written
>> > > well). In a way, it almost seems like more clutter for a person on a
>> > > screenreader to get image information, then similar information the
>> > headline and digest.
>> > >
>> > > I've seen different approaches on different sites. Would love more
>> > > feedback.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks!
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