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Re: [EXTERNAL]Decorative image or not in a search listing?

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From: glen walker
Date: Apr 18, 2018 1:10PM

If the alt text in the original story ends up being the same text as the
headline, then you'd have duplicate information to skip over, which could
be annoying.

It's certainly personal preference but I normally choose to check the
headline or digest text to determine whether to read an article, and not an
image.


On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:45 PM, Tim Harshbarger <
<EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> TO me, it seems like the image is being shown as part of the listing to
> help users decide if that is the story they want to click on. If that is
> the case, then the image seems like it would only be decorative if the
> image in the original story is decorative.
>
> I would think it would be better just to use whatever alt text was
> provided for that image in the original story.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [WebAIM] Decorative image or not in a search
> listing?
>
> Good catch, Jeremy. I was assuming the images were not a link so I didn't
> mention it.
>
> And as a tangent, hopefully the site only has one link to each story,
> instead of two (or more) that all point to the same location. I'm guessing
> the headline is the only link. (Is the headline a heading, a la <h2>?)
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Jeremy Echols < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
> > I agree with Glen unless the images are links. If so, and there's no
> > other link text, they would have to have something in the alt attribute.
> > Though the better fix would be to make the <a> element wrap around both
> the
> > image and the headline so that the image is once again just decorative.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
> > glen walker
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:03 AM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Decorative image or not in a search listing?
> >
> > I agree with your thought on not including it. If the image does not add
> > anything other than visual candy, it can be helpful to have a null alt so
> > that it doesn't clutter up the images that do have meaning. If I
> navigate
> > with the G key, or bring up the list of images with Ctrl+Ins+G, I
> wouldn't
> > want the "eye candy" images in that list (speaking as a personal
> > preference). I know I can bring up a list of links or headings to find
> the
> > articles. I don't need another way to navigate to them.
> >
> > These thoughts are only relative to your specific example. There are
> > cases where I recommend having alt text on eye candy because it can be
> > helpful or enjoyable.
> >
> > Glen
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Joe Allen-Black < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm having an internal debate on how to best guide the setup of alt
> > > text on a listing page. I would love the group's opinions.
> > >
> > > The page I am looking at is a listing of news articles. Each article
> > > has a headline, digest text, and then a lead image from the article.
> > > The headline and digest give proper information about what the article
> > > is about.
> > >
> > > I'm wondering about the need to include alt text with the image or go
> > > with an alt=""
> > >
> > > My thought to keep alt text is that it is content, so strong alt text
> > > would give more information to visitor.
> > >
> > > My thought for not including it is that the image is decorative in a
> way.
> > > It doesn't aid in understanding (even if the alt text was written
> > > well). In a way, it almost seems like more clutter for a person on a
> > > screenreader to get image information, then similar information the
> > headline and digest.
> > >
> > > I've seen different approaches on different sites. Would love more
> > > feedback.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
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