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Re: How to handle Heading under Section

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From: glen walker
Date: Apr 29, 2018 11:46AM

NVDA does let me turn off landscape announcements but it turns it off
everywhere. I'm not sure if I could turn it off just for a particular
site. So in theory you could ask your users to change their screen reader
settings to accommodate your design decisions.



On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Cohn < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> On the other hand Screen readers probably could be adjusted so that they
> would not double speak when the label of the section just entered is the
> same as the element with virtual focus.
>
> -Jonathan
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
> > On Apr 29, 2018, at 2:57 AM, glen walker < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> >
> > A <section> <https://www.w3.org/TR/html53/sections.html#the-section-
> element>
> > element has a region role <https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#region>
> by
> > default, and a region is a landmark. While it's good to have bypass
> blocks
> > that a screen reader can use, it might be overkill to have both a heading
> > and a landmark. The problem is you might have some screen reader users
> > that like to navigate by headings and others that like to navigate by
> > landmarks. Hearing the heading twice is not ideal, but is certainly
> better
> > than not being labeled.
> >
> > Without knowing more details about your situation, my initial reaction is
> > that the <section> is not needed. If you can't prevent the <section>
> from
> > being generated, then you might want to consider removing the landmark
> role
> > of the <section>. You can do this two ways:
> >
> > 1. If a <section> doesn't have a label (aria-label or aria-labelledby),
> > then most screen readers ignore the region as a landmark.
> > 2. You can set role="presentation"
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:18 AM, Alexander Karelas <
> <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> My page has 4 sections.
> >>
> >> Each of the 4 sections contains a big heading.
> >>
> >> My question is:
> >>
> >> Should I label the 4 sections? If so, I would ideally like to label them
> >> with the 4 headings (with aria-labelledby, maybe).
> >>
> >> But when I do that, NVDA reads the heading twice when I press 'h' to
> >> browse the headings. It reads it once because I entered the section, and
> >> it reads it once more because it's reading the heading itself.
> >>
> >> Is that considered annoying? I mean, when the user presses 'h' 4 times
> >> to browse the 4 headings, they will hear each heading twice after each
> >> keypress.
> >>
> >> How do you think I should handle this?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >>
> >>
> >> > >> > >> > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >