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From: Philip Kiff
Date: May 11, 2020 2:42PM

Drat!

Can I check then, when you run the "Full Check" in Acrobat, and you go
to that error in the Accessibility Checker panel, do you see a list of
fields when you expand the arrow by the "Tagged form fields - failed"
error? Or do you get no fields showing there, even though the error
won't go away?

And when you try to use the "Find" for "Unmarked annotations" you end up
finding nothing - no results at all?

These things can be very tricky to figure out!

Phil.

On 2020-05-11 16:24, Itzel McClaren (US - IFS) via WebAIM-Forum wrote:
> I tried that approach twice and it did not work.
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 3:19 PM Philip Kiff < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
>> Mmmm....those instructions are a bit more garbled that I assumed, when I
>> sent the link! What I mean is just the "unmarked annotations" part. Use the
>> Find feature in the Tags tree to see if there are any unmarked annotations.
>> If there are any, then use that feature to mark them as Form items. If
>> there are no "unmarked annotations", then that's not the problem and my
>> guess is wrong, so you can ignore the rest.
>> On 2020-05-11 16:11, Philip Kiff wrote:
>>
>> The Acrobat errors you list can arise for various reasons, and there is
>> not always one method to fix each specific error. I would start with the
>> form field and "annotation" issues. Sometimes fixing those might make other
>> errors disappear.
>>
>> 2) "Tagged form fields-failed"
>> Here I would guess that you have added Form tags, but you haven't marked
>> the "annotations" as Form fields. Acrobat doesn't automatically mark form
>> fields correctly when you simply use the "Form" button the "Touch Up
>> Reading Order" tool. Form fields that are not recognized automatically
>> often require additional manual tweaking. Maybe you can try to follow the
>> instructions provided by WebAIM to tag these unmarked annotations?:
>> https://webaim.org/techniques/acrobat/forms#tags
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>> On 2020-05-11 15:55, Itzel McClaren (US - IFS) via WebAIM-Forum wrote:
>>
>> We are using Acrobat to fix the issues.
>>
>> Here they are:
>> 1) "Other elements alternate text - fails" It highlights the items in the
>> table of contents.
>> 2) "Tagged form fields-failed"- However, we added the tags and still have
>> the same errors.
>> 3) "Other elements alternate text-Failed"- It highlight some of the images
>> included in the document. But those images have alt text.
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 2:47 PM L Snider < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>
>> Also were you trying to fix it because of the Acrobat checker or using
>> another checker for PDF/UA?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:41 PM Paul Rayius < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> HI Itzel,
>> Can you be more specific what the issues are that you're having?
>> Feel free to email me directly if you'd like. I won't try to sell you
>> anything - I'm not in sales!
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Paul
>>
>> Paul Rayius
>> Director of Training
>> CommonLook
>>
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>> Subject: [WebAIM] Issues with remediating PDF documents
>>
>> Hello everyone, we have a document that is showing various issues with
>> tagging ("other elements", forms and tagged annotations errors when using
>> tables) we've followed instructions to remediate those issues but it is
>> not working. What do you do when you run into those issues. We have tried
>> all the fixes suggested online and nothing works. We need to have the
>> documents available as soon as possible.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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