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From: Joel Sanda
Date: Oct 10, 2001 3:08PM

Hi Scott;
Thanks for your reply. You employed a very creative solution at
www.rcep7.org - without duplicating content! It looks like your site is
applying what I was thinking about: using the framed navigation to provide
an implicit "skip repetitive navigation" link.
My initial question - can this count as fulfilling the requirement in S.508
- seems to make sense logical: users can bypass a frameset and if all the
navigation is located in a single frame, that frame can be skipped over. Of
course, that doesn't alleviate the need for a <noframe> solution, but does
mean users can skip the repetitive navigation.
Thanks -
Joel Sanda
Product Manager
Product Engineering & Technology
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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Standifer [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 8:14 AM
To: WebAIM forum
Subject: Re: Skipping Repetitive Links in Frames

Hi Joel
I don't know if this helps, but you might take a look at how I
approached the issue of a navigation frame and duplicate text links at
our website www.rcep7.org. I basically made a stand-alone frames-free
site, with the navigation links at the bottom, then built the frames
version to access the frames-free pages as content. Navigating with the
buttons in the navigation frame keeps you in the frames mode. Navigating
with the text links at the bottom of the content pages lets you use
either the frames mode or the frames-free, low-graphics mode. That way I
get the effect of a duplicate text-only website and graphics heavy
website without dual maintenance. It did mean that I had to double up my
navigation links at the bottom, but I'm working on a Java solution to
that.
I didn't follow all of the issues of concern you described, so I
don't
know how well this solves your problems, but it might help.
Note that, because my navigation links are at the bottom, instead of
a
"skip navigation" link I put in an "end of content, navigation links
follow" message at the bottom of my pages for people using screen
readers. I also made sure that the first thing that loads in the frames
mode is always the link to the frames-free mode.
I'm working on starting a project to expand this "dual access"
approach
in web design, and I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has tried
it.

Scott Standifer
Instructional Designer
Region 7 Rehabilitation Continuing Education Program
(RCEP7)
University of Missouri, Columbia
>
> Date: 5 Oct 2001 15:54:23 -0600
> From: Joel Sanda < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: Section 508 - Skipping Repetitive Links
>
> Hi all -
>
> I emailed the Access Board with this question (but never received a
> response) and am wondering what you all think.
>
> If a site uses frames, that are otherwise compliant with Section 508
> requirements, and one frame holds nothing but navigation, does that permit
> sufficient skipping of repetitive navigation links?
[snip]
>
> Thanks for any feedback!
>
> Joel Sanda
> Product Manager
> Product Engineering & Technology

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