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From: Sandy Feldman
Date: May 26, 2022 2:30PM

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<p>Thank you! Exactly what I'm looking for. Maybe even enough to get
that thing off the site.<br>
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<p>Marissa, a video that <b>I</b> can share would be perfect. Would
you be ok with recording this? Much appreciated!<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">Sandy
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<a href="https://www.a11yready.com/">a11yready.com</a><a>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2022-05-26 3:29 p.m., Marissa
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">In Chrome, if I put on the Cognitive Disability Profile, the nested top
menu becomes almost unusable - I cannot get my mouse to go to the third
level of navigation without closing the entiere menu. If I have that
profile on AND I have my screen size zoomed in so that the menu goes to
mobile, the menu does not work at all. My default screen zoom because I
have aging eyes in 150%. For my daughter, who has a visual impairment, the
default is 200%.

If I use the overlay to increase the font-size, the third-tier of the menu
falls off the page.

So using the options in the overlay made the content less accessible than
if I just zoomed in and made a custom CSS (I do that for my child
sometimes).


Happy to do a video screenshare.


Marissa Goldsmith
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On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 1:54 PM L Snider <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ">&lt; <EMAIL REMOVED> &gt;</a> wrote:

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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I came across this page, which has many updates, if you haven't seen it
already:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://adrianroselli.com/2020/06/accessibe-will-get-you-sued.html">https://adrianroselli.com/2020/06/accessibe-will-get-you-sued.html</a>

On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 12:34 PM Sandy Feldman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ">&lt; <EMAIL REMOVED> &gt;</a>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">A lot of this site's users use assistive technology. The site owner is a
JAWS user. I think examples are key in making the point.

I think if we can show that things are worse we can turn this thing off.
Sandy

sandyfeldman.com
a11yready.com <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://www.a11yready.com/">&lt;https://www.a11yready.com/&gt;</a>


On 2022-05-26 11:20 a.m., Ryan E. Benson wrote:

Unless they understand assistive technology, I'm fearful that examples
would not work. AccessiBe has been in a few lawsuits, so showing that
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">be the best way to go about it. Karl groves made his testimony in a case
public.

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Catherine, thank you.

I have seen those, and passed them along. They aren't helping. What I
really need is examples specific to this site of things going wrong.
Sandy
sandyfeldman.coma11yready.com <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://www.a11yready.com/">&lt;https://www.a11yready.com/&gt;</a> &lt;
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On 2022-05-26 10:57 a.m., Catherine Roy wrote:

Hi Sandy,

Have you seen these resources?
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://overlayfactsheet.com/">https://overlayfactsheet.com/</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://accessibleweb.com/web-accessibility-news/do-away-with-overlays/">https://accessibleweb.com/web-accessibility-news/do-away-with-overlays/</a>


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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.essentialaccessibility.com/blog/the-many-pitfalls-of-accessibility-overlays">https://www.essentialaccessibility.com/blog/the-many-pitfalls-of-accessibility-overlays</a>
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HTH,
Catherine

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Dear Sandy,
That should not be to difficult knowing how bad their overlay thing
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Sincerely,
Nathan Clark


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Nate, thanks - but it didn't work! We need to provide actual examples
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the site.


Sandy

sandyfeldman.com
a11yready.com




On 2022-05-26 10:16 a.m., Nathan Clark wrote:


Just tell them that disability rights organizations like the National

Federation of the Blind have spoken out against Accessibee and they

don't suggest any company using them.


Nate


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hey all,


I'd really appreciate your help with this.


A client has been pressured into adding AccessiBe to their site
imagemd.org/


We have a version without the overlay dev.imagemd.org/. What I'm hoping

is

you guys find things AccessiBe makes worse and we can justify disabling

it.


Thank you so much!


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Sandy

sandyfeldman.com
a11yready.com










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