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Re: Does providing null ("") for Role, Name, id break Accessibility in any way ?

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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Jul 29, 2023 2:31PM

ARIA does not allow for an empty role attribute value, that's invalid markup.
At best, and fortunately this appears to be the case, it's ignored by
browsers/screen readers.
At worst this would remove the native role attribute from the elements
where they are present, e.g. buttons/links/headings etc.
This is invalid markup, and I have a hard time seeing why you'd want
it on the page (a role attribute without a pre-determined value that
is).
Again, if you can verify through testing with a sufficient
combinations of screen readers and browsers that this does not impact
the user experience you can justify keeping it, but I'd definitely see
if there could be ways to do it differently.


On 7/29/23, jp Jamous < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> While everything is working good, I would fail this if I was testing a page.
> Also, automated tools would fail it.
>
> The ID may not be the biggest concern, but the Role would be. It would fail
> Role, Name Value.
>
> I prefer to have values for all of those by default, then the script can
> change them when the JS execute. Nothing wrong with this approach. However,
> leaving them empty is bad markup and would fail 1.4.2.
>
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> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2023 2:40 PM
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> Subject: [WebAIM] Does providing null ("") for Role, Name, id break
> Accessibility in any way ?
>
> Hello list,
>
> We have a piece of code where id="" , role="" and name="" (all null) used in
> many scenarios for various reasons, running automated scripts for the page
> containing the code resulting in failure with the message "Element does not
> have inner text that is visible to screen readers".
> Is this a cause of concern for Accessibility? The controls work just fine
> with all major screen readers though.
>
> Appreciate your response.
>
>
> Thanks.
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