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From: Dean.Vasile
Date: Jul 30, 2024 3:16PM

Christine,
I hear both you and Patrick and I appreciate that and I can and will stop doing it.
However, neither of you have offered a solution to this list to the issue that has been posed.
So I accept your constructive criticism. However, what is the answer to the issue?
Dean Vasile


617-799-1162

> On Jul 30, 2024, at 4:20 PM, Christine Hogenkamp < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> I agree with Patrick, I don't think we are serving the members of this
> mailing list by normalizing asking AI apps questions about accessibility,
> since they are not search engines nor encyclopedia type resources but just
> generate text based on statistical likelihood of the next word in the
> sentence. A lot of bad advice or incorrect info can be given by accident
> just by missing a word like "not" etc. especially as answers to questions
> posed by people who don't yet have the expertise to evaluate the answer for
> accuracy.
>
> *x*
> *Christine Hogenkamp (She, Her)*
> Front-end Developer
> Context Creative – a Mod Op company
> 416.972.1439 | contextcreative.com
>
>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 2:00 PM < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> wrote:
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Patrick H. Lauke" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 16:55:10 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] CSS Live Region
>>
>>
>>> On 30/07/2024 15:46, <EMAIL REMOVED> wrote:
>>> My consulted Gemini.
>>
>> A small "can we stop this kind of crap answer? If you don't know the
>> answer, asking some spicy autocomplete instead won't help capture the
>> actual nuance required". This isn't "let me AI this for you" as a
>> service here...
>>
>> And indeed, while the short answer here is that no, you wouldn't
>> normally call it a live region, the fact that your currently focused
>> element is dynamically changing will have repercussions for whether or
>> not assistive technologies will announce the change. Just setting
>> `aria-pressed` here is not necessarily the answer either, as you then
>> get into weird double-negative-style announcements as well. See Have a
>> read through https://sarahmhigley.com/writing/playing-with-state/
>>
>> And yes, one "trick" to make the dynamic change of the label for the
>> currently focused control announce consistently sometimes *does* involve
>> making the control itself a tiny live region. See
>>
>> https://adrianroselli.com/2020/12/be-careful-with-dynamic-accessible-names.html
>>
>> P
>> --
>> Patrick H. Lauke
>>
>> * https://www.splintered.co.uk/
>> * https://github.com/patrickhlauke
>> * https://flickr.com/photos/redux/
>> * https://mastodon.social/@patrick_h_lauke
>>
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