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From: Elle
Date: Tue, Feb 07 2012 6:30AM
Subject: Accessible Dashboard Experience
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All:

Our company is undergoing a major redesign, and one feature that is high on
stakeholders' list is to have a modular dashboard experience for users that
they can customize (both through toggle options and drag and drop
capabilities). Does anyone know of an accessible dashboard experience that
I could use as a guide on how to implement this? Or, alternately, does
anyone have recommendations on the best implementation?


Much appreciated,
Elle

From: Steve Flaukner
Date: Wed, Feb 08 2012 9:09AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Dashboard Experience
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This sounds interesting. Have you started anything in layout or design of
what you want? Can you share more of what you want achieve and do you have
a wish list for affairs items in the long term?
On Feb 7, 2012 8:30 AM, "Elle" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> All:
>
> Our company is undergoing a major redesign, and one feature that is high on
> stakeholders' list is to have a modular dashboard experience for users that
> they can customize (both through toggle options and drag and drop
> capabilities). Does anyone know of an accessible dashboard experience that
> I could use as a guide on how to implement this? Or, alternately, does
> anyone have recommendations on the best implementation?
>
>
> Much appreciated,
> Elle
>

From: Elle
Date: Wed, Feb 08 2012 10:36AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Dashboard Experience
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We have some very high level wireframes, but I think the concepts are
pretty standard with regards to major technical features. We will have
complex infographs (which we're discussing alternate formats on today,
leaning towards .csv for users to consume and track data as they like),
there will be drag and drop capabilities for a user to customize his/her
dashboard, and we will have the usual accessibility challenges of dynamic
content, content structure, and good old static content. The dashboard may
be our biggest challenge with this redesign project, but I'm excited to see
how we can make it both useful for our members and universally accessible.


Cheers,
Elle




On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Steve Flaukner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> This sounds interesting. Have you started anything in layout or design of
> what you want? Can you share more of what you want achieve and do you have
> a wish list for affairs items in the long term?
> On Feb 7, 2012 8:30 AM, "Elle" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > All:
> >
> > Our company is undergoing a major redesign, and one feature that is high
> on
> > stakeholders' list is to have a modular dashboard experience for users
> that
> > they can customize (both through toggle options and drag and drop
> > capabilities). Does anyone know of an accessible dashboard experience
> that
> > I could use as a guide on how to implement this? Or, alternately, does
> > anyone have recommendations on the best implementation?
> >
> >
> > Much appreciated,
> > Elle
>
>

From: Vincent Young
Date: Wed, Feb 08 2012 11:42AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Dashboard Experience
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This topic has got me interested. I think the BBC changed their home page
so there is no longer any customization.

I'm thinking about how this would be done:

A table would seem to give you the basic orientation, but tables for layout
are weak. role="grid" might be your answer there.

You have to give proper notification of when an item is:

1. Movable
2. Active
3. Moved
4. Set/Saved

Things would really all need to be drawn out with proper planning
concerning accessibility. I would really stress that this thing can not be
developed and then accessibility added later. Sure, it might be possible,
but you'd be in a world of hurt!


On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Vincent Young < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >wrote:

> Seeing your other posts Steve. You are surely not robot.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Elle < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > We have some very high level wireframes, but I think the concepts are
> > pretty standard with regards to major technical features. We will have
> > complex infographs (which we're discussing alternate formats on today,
> > leaning towards .csv for users to consume and track data as they like),
> > there will be drag and drop capabilities for a user to customize his/her
> > dashboard, and we will have the usual accessibility challenges of dynamic
> > content, content structure, and good old static content. The dashboard
> may
> > be our biggest challenge with this redesign project, but I'm excited to
> see
> > how we can make it both useful for our members and universally
> accessible.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Elle
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Steve Flaukner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
> >
> >> This sounds interesting. Have you started anything in layout or design
> of
> >> what you want? Can you share more of what you want achieve and do you
> have
> >> a wish list for affairs items in the long term?
> >> On Feb 7, 2012 8:30 AM, "Elle" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >>
> >>> All:
> >>>
> >>> Our company is undergoing a major redesign, and one feature that is
> high
> >> on
> >>> stakeholders' list is to have a modular dashboard experience for users
> >> that
> >>> they can customize (both through toggle options and drag and drop
> >>> capabilities). Does anyone know of an accessible dashboard experience
> >> that
> >>> I could use as a guide on how to implement this? Or, alternately, does
> >>> anyone have recommendations on the best implementation?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Much appreciated,
> >>> Elle
> >>
> >>
> >

From: Steve Flaukner
Date: Wed, Feb 08 2012 11:54AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Dashboard Experience
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I'm trying conceptualize the final product. I agree there would be several
challenges but there needs to be a baseline plus in what language will this
be done? I always say NO to tables. However that's my choice. But I'm still
trying to digest the audience of who will be accessing this?
On Feb 8, 2012 1:42 PM, "Vincent Young" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> This topic has got me interested. I think the BBC changed their home page
> so there is no longer any customization.
>
> I'm thinking about how this would be done:
>
> A table would seem to give you the basic orientation, but tables for layout
> are weak. role="grid" might be your answer there.
>
> You have to give proper notification of when an item is:
>
> 1. Movable
> 2. Active
> 3. Moved
> 4. Set/Saved
>
> Things would really all need to be drawn out with proper planning
> concerning accessibility. I would really stress that this thing can not be
> developed and then accessibility added later. Sure, it might be possible,
> but you'd be in a world of hurt!
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Vincent Young < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >wrote:
>
> > Seeing your other posts Steve. You are surely not robot.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Elle < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > > We have some very high level wireframes, but I think the concepts are
> > > pretty standard with regards to major technical features. We will have
> > > complex infographs (which we're discussing alternate formats on today,
> > > leaning towards .csv for users to consume and track data as they like),
> > > there will be drag and drop capabilities for a user to customize
> his/her
> > > dashboard, and we will have the usual accessibility challenges of
> dynamic
> > > content, content structure, and good old static content. The dashboard
> > may
> > > be our biggest challenge with this redesign project, but I'm excited to
> > see
> > > how we can make it both useful for our members and universally
> > accessible.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Elle
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Steve Flaukner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> This sounds interesting. Have you started anything in layout or design
> > of
> > >> what you want? Can you share more of what you want achieve and do you
> > have
> > >> a wish list for affairs items in the long term?
> > >> On Feb 7, 2012 8:30 AM, "Elle" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> All:
> > >>>
> > >>> Our company is undergoing a major redesign, and one feature that is
> > high
> > >> on
> > >>> stakeholders' list is to have a modular dashboard experience for
> users
> > >> that
> > >>> they can customize (both through toggle options and drag and drop
> > >>> capabilities). Does anyone know of an accessible dashboard
> experience
> > >> that
> > >>> I could use as a guide on how to implement this? Or, alternately,
> does
> > >>> anyone have recommendations on the best implementation?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Much appreciated,
> > >>> Elle
> > >>
> > >>
> > >

From: Elle
Date: Wed, Feb 08 2012 12:00PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Dashboard Experience
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Vincent:

I completely hear you with regards to planning and the need for a
purposeful, thoughtful integration of accessibility into each phase. The
launch date for the dashboard is set for November 2012, so this will NOT be
a "bolt it on at the end and hope for the best" kind of approach, trust me.
Accessibility is a non-negotiable requirement, too.

With regards to the ARIA role="grid" concept, I think this is really
interesting, especially because I'm now wondering how well it would work
with the grid layout system we're already using to develop pages (a
modification of http://960.gs/ ). We're also using HTML5 (boilerplate), so
there may be some "hooks" there as well. You're right in that we probably
won't be using tables for the dashboard, since most of the sections are
content (albeit movable) and not data.


Cheers,
Elle




On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Vincent Young < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >wrote:

> This topic has got me interested. I think the BBC changed their home page
> so there is no longer any customization.
>
> I'm thinking about how this would be done:
>
> A table would seem to give you the basic orientation, but tables for layout
> are weak. role="grid" might be your answer there.
>
> You have to give proper notification of when an item is:
>
> 1. Movable
> 2. Active
> 3. Moved
> 4. Set/Saved
>
> Things would really all need to be drawn out with proper planning
> concerning accessibility. I would really stress that this thing can not be
> developed and then accessibility added later. Sure, it might be possible,
> but you'd be in a world of hurt!
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Vincent Young < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >wrote:
>
> > Seeing your other posts Steve. You are surely not robot.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Elle < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > > We have some very high level wireframes, but I think the concepts are
> > > pretty standard with regards to major technical features. We will have
> > > complex infographs (which we're discussing alternate formats on today,
> > > leaning towards .csv for users to consume and track data as they like),
> > > there will be drag and drop capabilities for a user to customize
> his/her
> > > dashboard, and we will have the usual accessibility challenges of
> dynamic
> > > content, content structure, and good old static content. The dashboard
> > may
> > > be our biggest challenge with this redesign project, but I'm excited to
> > see
> > > how we can make it both useful for our members and universally
> > accessible.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Elle
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Steve Flaukner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> This sounds interesting. Have you started anything in layout or design
> > of
> > >> what you want? Can you share more of what you want achieve and do you
> > have
> > >> a wish list for affairs items in the long term?
> > >> On Feb 7, 2012 8:30 AM, "Elle" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> All:
> > >>>
> > >>> Our company is undergoing a major redesign, and one feature that is
> > high
> > >> on
> > >>> stakeholders' list is to have a modular dashboard experience for
> users
> > >> that
> > >>> they can customize (both through toggle options and drag and drop
> > >>> capabilities). Does anyone know of an accessible dashboard
> experience
> > >> that
> > >>> I could use as a guide on how to implement this? Or, alternately,
> does
> > >>> anyone have recommendations on the best implementation?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Much appreciated,
> > >>> Elle
> > >>
> > >>
> > >

From: Elle
Date: Wed, Feb 08 2012 12:12PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Dashboard Experience
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Steve:

Language = ASP.NET MVC3 + HTML5 + jQuery + CSS3 (with progressive
enhancement and CSS Pie). As far as audience, it will be for our members
who have purchased products from our company and want to manage various
features. I don't think the audience is as important, however, given that
this discussion might benefit a lot of people (higher ED, .gov, etc.).


Cheers,
Elle



On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Steve Flaukner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> I'm trying conceptualize the final product. I agree there would be several
> challenges but there needs to be a baseline plus in what language will this
> be done? I always say NO to tables. However that's my choice. But I'm still
> trying to digest the audience of who will be accessing this?
> On Feb 8, 2012 1:42 PM, "Vincent Young" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > This topic has got me interested. I think the BBC changed their home page
> > so there is no longer any customization.
> >
> > I'm thinking about how this would be done:
> >
> > A table would seem to give you the basic orientation, but tables for
> layout
> > are weak. role="grid" might be your answer there.
> >
> > You have to give proper notification of when an item is:
> >
> > 1. Movable
> > 2. Active
> > 3. Moved
> > 4. Set/Saved
> >
> > Things would really all need to be drawn out with proper planning
> > concerning accessibility. I would really stress that this thing can not
> be
> > developed and then accessibility added later. Sure, it might be
> possible,
> > but you'd be in a world of hurt!
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Vincent Young < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Seeing your other posts Steve. You are surely not robot.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Elle < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >
> > > > We have some very high level wireframes, but I think the concepts are
> > > > pretty standard with regards to major technical features. We will
> have
> > > > complex infographs (which we're discussing alternate formats on
> today,
> > > > leaning towards .csv for users to consume and track data as they
> like),
> > > > there will be drag and drop capabilities for a user to customize
> > his/her
> > > > dashboard, and we will have the usual accessibility challenges of
> > dynamic
> > > > content, content structure, and good old static content. The
> dashboard
> > > may
> > > > be our biggest challenge with this redesign project, but I'm excited
> to
> > > see
> > > > how we can make it both useful for our members and universally
> > > accessible.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Elle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Steve Flaukner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> This sounds interesting. Have you started anything in layout or
> design
> > > of
> > > >> what you want? Can you share more of what you want achieve and do
> you
> > > have
> > > >> a wish list for affairs items in the long term?
> > > >> On Feb 7, 2012 8:30 AM, "Elle" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> All:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Our company is undergoing a major redesign, and one feature that is
> > > high
> > > >> on
> > > >>> stakeholders' list is to have a modular dashboard experience for
> > users
> > > >> that
> > > >>> they can customize (both through toggle options and drag and drop
> > > >>> capabilities). Does anyone know of an accessible dashboard
> > experience
> > > >> that
> > > >>> I could use as a guide on how to implement this? Or, alternately,
> > does
> > > >>> anyone have recommendations on the best implementation?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Much appreciated,
> > > >>> Elle
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >