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From: Ryan E. Benson
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2014 10:27AM
Subject: Heading overkill?
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Hi All,

I am reviewing a course, and I feel like they used headings a bit too
liberally.

Each page is designed like a slide, and one title per "slide":

<h1>Course Title</h1>
<h2>Module title</h2>
<h3>Lesson Title</h3>
<h4>slide title</h4>
// couple lines of content

Can I get some feedback on this?
--
Ryan E. Benson

From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2014 10:35AM
Subject: Re: Heading overkill?
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Those slides need a good and proper beheading, for their own good.
Headings are useless, from a navigational point of view, when they sit
next to each other in content order.
While these certainly communicate the content hierarchy to a degree,
the context of the text more than adequately does that by itself, in
my opinion from the humble pie farm.
I would recommend an h1 for the course and an h2 for the title of each
one of the slides.
At least no more than 2 out of the 4 lines should be headings, ideally
the title of the slide should be one, because that is where the user
is most likely to be going.
Cheers
-B
Birkir Gunnarsson
Accessibility SME | Deque Systems



On 3/28/14, Ryan E. Benson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am reviewing a course, and I feel like they used headings a bit too
> liberally.
>
> Each page is designed like a slide, and one title per "slide":
>
> <h1>Course Title</h1>
> <h2>Module title</h2>
> <h3>Lesson Title</h3>
> <h4>slide title</h4>
> // couple lines of content
>
> Can I get some feedback on this?
> --
> Ryan E. Benson
> > > >


--
Work hard. Have fun. Make history.

From: Ryan E. Benson
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2014 10:55AM
Subject: Re: Heading overkill?
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That was my thought, or just make the slide title an H1, since most people
would not need the course title every single time.

Does anybody know of an article that:
- advocates what Birkir said? So I have more than, cause I said so.
- says changing headings in times like this is fine?

of course two different articles are fine.

--
Ryan E. Benson


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Those slides need a good and proper beheading, for their own good.
> Headings are useless, from a navigational point of view, when they sit
> next to each other in content order.
> While these certainly communicate the content hierarchy to a degree,
> the context of the text more than adequately does that by itself, in
> my opinion from the humble pie farm.
> I would recommend an h1 for the course and an h2 for the title of each
> one of the slides.
> At least no more than 2 out of the 4 lines should be headings, ideally
> the title of the slide should be one, because that is where the user
> is most likely to be going.
> Cheers
> -B
> Birkir Gunnarsson
> Accessibility SME | Deque Systems
>
>
>
> On 3/28/14, Ryan E. Benson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am reviewing a course, and I feel like they used headings a bit too
> > liberally.
> >
> > Each page is designed like a slide, and one title per "slide":
> >
> > <h1>Course Title</h1>
> > <h2>Module title</h2>
> > <h3>Lesson Title</h3>
> > <h4>slide title</h4>
> > // couple lines of content
> >
> > Can I get some feedback on this?
> > --
> > Ryan E. Benson
> > > > > > > >
>
>
> --
> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> > > >

From: Olaf Drümmer
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2014 3:53PM
Subject: Re: Heading overkill?
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Hi Ryan,

My rule of thumb for headings is: if they would be included in a table of contents then they are headings, if not then they are not headings.

While slide decks often do not have a table of contents, if one were to create or include one - the rule of thumb still applies (and usually most people would arrive at the same conclusion whether some piece of text should be a heading or not).

Olaf


Am 28 Mar 2014 um 17:55 schrieb "Ryan E. Benson" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >:

> That was my thought, or just make the slide title an H1, since most people
> would not need the course title every single time.
>
> Does anybody know of an article that:
> - advocates what Birkir said? So I have more than, cause I said so.
> - says changing headings in times like this is fine?
>
> of course two different articles are fine.
>
> --
> Ryan E. Benson
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Those slides need a good and proper beheading, for their own good.
>> Headings are useless, from a navigational point of view, when they sit
>> next to each other in content order.
>> While these certainly communicate the content hierarchy to a degree,
>> the context of the text more than adequately does that by itself, in
>> my opinion from the humble pie farm.
>> I would recommend an h1 for the course and an h2 for the title of each
>> one of the slides.
>> At least no more than 2 out of the 4 lines should be headings, ideally
>> the title of the slide should be one, because that is where the user
>> is most likely to be going.
>> Cheers
>> -B
>> Birkir Gunnarsson
>> Accessibility SME | Deque Systems
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/28/14, Ryan E. Benson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am reviewing a course, and I feel like they used headings a bit too
>>> liberally.
>>>
>>> Each page is designed like a slide, and one title per "slide":
>>>
>>> <h1>Course Title</h1>
>>> <h2>Module title</h2>
>>> <h3>Lesson Title</h3>
>>> <h4>slide title</h4>
>>> // couple lines of content
>>>
>>> Can I get some feedback on this?
>>> --
>>> Ryan E. Benson
>>> >>> >>> >>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>> >> >> >>
> > >