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From: Sophie Schuermans
Date: Mon, Jun 13 2016 2:49AM
Subject: Accessible elearning platform
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Hello,

Can anyone recommend an e-learning platform that makes it possible to
produce accessible e-learning courses?
Best regards,

Sophie

From: David Sloan
Date: Mon, Jun 13 2016 3:08AM
Subject: Re: Accessible elearning platform
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Hi Sophie,

I think that question is actually at least two questions:
* how accessible is the platform to learners and instructors with disabilities? (which might be measured by WCAG conformance)
* how well does the platform support instructors in creating accessible learning experiences? (which might be measured by ATAG conformance)

This LMS accessibility comparison study is a few years old now, so there will likely have been improvements made since then to the systems that were reviewed. But I think it's very useful as an independent comparison of 4 LMSs: Blackboard, Desire2Learn, SAKAI and Moodle:
http://blog.bargirangin.com/2013/03/a-comparison-of-learning-management.html

LMS vendors will provide lots of accessibility information about their own products, too, which allows you to make independent comparison. But I'd also be interested to learn whether there is an LMS system that WebAIM list members find in practice performs particularly well from an accessibility perspective.

For interest, I'm involved in a W3C Community Group on Accessible Online Learning, which is working in this area:
https://www.w3.org/community/accesslearn/

Dave

> On 13 Jun 2016, at 09:49, Sophie Schuermans < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Can anyone recommend an e-learning platform that makes it possible to
> produce accessible e-learning courses?
> Best regards,
>
> Sophie

David Sloan

UX Research Lead
The Paciello Group
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From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Date: Mon, Jun 13 2016 10:58PM
Subject: Re: Accessible elearning platform
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Hello,
Blackboard is really difficult to use, although it is usable. Etudes is my
favorite by far.
Thanks,


Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:08 AM, David Sloan < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Hi Sophie,
>
> I think that question is actually at least two questions:
> * how accessible is the platform to learners and instructors with
> disabilities? (which might be measured by WCAG conformance)
> * how well does the platform support instructors in creating accessible
> learning experiences? (which might be measured by ATAG conformance)
>
> This LMS accessibility comparison study is a few years old now, so there
> will likely have been improvements made since then to the systems that were
> reviewed. But I think it's very useful as an independent comparison of 4
> LMSs: Blackboard, Desire2Learn, SAKAI and Moodle:
>
> http://blog.bargirangin.com/2013/03/a-comparison-of-learning-management.html
>
> LMS vendors will provide lots of accessibility information about their own
> products, too, which allows you to make independent comparison. But I'd
> also be interested to learn whether there is an LMS system that WebAIM list
> members find in practice performs particularly well from an accessibility
> perspective.
>
> For interest, I'm involved in a W3C Community Group on Accessible Online
> Learning, which is working in this area:
> https://www.w3.org/community/accesslearn/
>
> Dave
>
> > On 13 Jun 2016, at 09:49, Sophie Schuermans < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Can anyone recommend an e-learning platform that makes it possible to
> > produce accessible e-learning courses?
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Sophie
>
> David Sloan
>
> UX Research Lead
> The Paciello Group
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From: KP
Date: Mon, Jun 13 2016 11:58PM
Subject: Re: Accessible elearning platform
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Id say it's actually 3, if not 4, questions the 3rd being whether the tutors have any ideas how to produce accessible materials and 4th does the institute both require and support them to do so.

A bunch of accessible pdf scans is still inaccessible

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14/06/2016, at 4:58 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Blackboard is really difficult to use, although it is usable. Etudes is my
> favorite by far.
> Thanks,
>
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:08 AM, David Sloan < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sophie,
>>
>> I think that question is actually at least two questions:
>> * how accessible is the platform to learners and instructors with
>> disabilities? (which might be measured by WCAG conformance)
>> * how well does the platform support instructors in creating accessible
>> learning experiences? (which might be measured by ATAG conformance)
>>
>> This LMS accessibility comparison study is a few years old now, so there
>> will likely have been improvements made since then to the systems that were
>> reviewed. But I think it's very useful as an independent comparison of 4
>> LMSs: Blackboard, Desire2Learn, SAKAI and Moodle:
>>
>> http://blog.bargirangin.com/2013/03/a-comparison-of-learning-management.html
>>
>> LMS vendors will provide lots of accessibility information about their own
>> products, too, which allows you to make independent comparison. But I'd
>> also be interested to learn whether there is an LMS system that WebAIM list
>> members find in practice performs particularly well from an accessibility
>> perspective.
>>
>> For interest, I'm involved in a W3C Community Group on Accessible Online
>> Learning, which is working in this area:
>> https://www.w3.org/community/accesslearn/
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>> On 13 Jun 2016, at 09:49, Sophie Schuermans < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Can anyone recommend an e-learning platform that makes it possible to
>>> produce accessible e-learning courses?
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Sophie
>>
>> David Sloan
>>
>> UX Research Lead
>> The Paciello Group
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>>
>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be
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>> notify the sender at the above e-mail address, and delete this e-mail along
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>>
>> >> >> >> > > > >

From: David Sloan
Date: Tue, Jun 14 2016 2:53AM
Subject: Re: Accessible elearning platform
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Hi Kevin

Good point—learning management system accessibility needs supporting policies and programs to ensure that the people who use it 1) know how to use it in an accessible manner, and 2) are required to do so.

But things like accessibility policies and training programmes are really properties of the organisation using the system, rather than the system itself.

Dave


> On 14 Jun 2016, at 06:58, KP < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Id say it's actually 3, if not 4, questions the 3rd being whether the tutors have any ideas how to produce accessible materials and 4th does the institute both require and support them to do so.
>
> A bunch of accessible pdf scans is still inaccessible
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 14/06/2016, at 4:58 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> Blackboard is really difficult to use, although it is usable. Etudes is my
>> favorite by far.
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:08 AM, David Sloan < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sophie,
>>>
>>> I think that question is actually at least two questions:
>>> * how accessible is the platform to learners and instructors with
>>> disabilities? (which might be measured by WCAG conformance)
>>> * how well does the platform support instructors in creating accessible
>>> learning experiences? (which might be measured by ATAG conformance)
>>>
>>> This LMS accessibility comparison study is a few years old now, so there
>>> will likely have been improvements made since then to the systems that were
>>> reviewed. But I think it's very useful as an independent comparison of 4
>>> LMSs: Blackboard, Desire2Learn, SAKAI and Moodle:
>>>
>>> http://blog.bargirangin.com/2013/03/a-comparison-of-learning-management.html
>>>
>>> LMS vendors will provide lots of accessibility information about their own
>>> products, too, which allows you to make independent comparison. But I'd
>>> also be interested to learn whether there is an LMS system that WebAIM list
>>> members find in practice performs particularly well from an accessibility
>>> perspective.
>>>
>>> For interest, I'm involved in a W3C Community Group on Accessible Online
>>> Learning, which is working in this area:
>>> https://www.w3.org/community/accesslearn/
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>> On 13 Jun 2016, at 09:49, Sophie Schuermans < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone recommend an e-learning platform that makes it possible to
>>>> produce accessible e-learning courses?
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sophie
>>>
>>> David Sloan
>>>
>>> UX Research Lead
>>> The Paciello Group
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>>>
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>>>
>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >
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