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From: L Snider
Date: Fri, Aug 19 2016 12:35PM
Subject: Batch HTML maker
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Hi Everyone,

I have a lot of Word and PDF documents that I want to make into HTML files,
in as automated a way as possible (I am okay doing it one by one though if
needed). However, I want the HTML to be clean and not full of code bits
that shouldn't be there.

I know Word has the Save As HTML but the code is gross and bloated.

Anyone using a system that produces HTML with good clean code?

Cheers

Lisa

From: Jamous, JP
Date: Fri, Aug 19 2016 12:42PM
Subject: Re: Batch HTML maker
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I feel your pain Lisa. I hate the code Word generates. I wish it was clean and straight to the point.

So far, I haven't found a program, but I'd join my voice to Lisa's.




**************************************************

Jean-Pierre Jamous
Digital Accessibility Specialist & Developer
UI Accessibility Team

The only limitations in life are those we set for ourselves

**************************************************

From: Jim Homme
Date: Fri, Aug 19 2016 12:48PM
Subject: Re: Batch HTML maker
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Hi Lisa,
I don't have personal experience with what you just said, but I am about to give a tool I have here a try to see what happens. Can you give me an idea how complex one of your documents is, so I can try to produce a similar test here? If

Thanks.

Jim


=========Jim Homme,
Accessibility Consultant,
Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
412-787-8567,
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http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-solutions
E+R=O

From: Angela French
Date: Fri, Aug 19 2016 12:50PM
Subject: Re: Batch HTML maker
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"Save as HTML" is the biggest disservice ever done to web developers everywhere. Just sayin.

Angela French

From: L Snider
Date: Fri, Aug 19 2016 1:08PM
Subject: Re: Batch HTML maker
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Hi Jim,

It can be any type of document, simple or complex.

Thanks!

Cheers

Lisa

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hi Lisa,
> I don't have personal experience with what you just said, but I am about
> to give a tool I have here a try to see what happens. Can you give me an
> idea how complex one of your documents is, so I can try to produce a
> similar test here? If
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
>
> =========> Jim Homme,
> Accessibility Consultant,
> Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
> Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
> 412-787-8567,
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> accessible-technology-solutions
> E+R=O
>
>

From: Jamous, JP
Date: Fri, Aug 19 2016 1:20PM
Subject: Re: Batch HTML maker
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Jim,

She is referring to the Microsoft styling that is embedded in HTML when Word converts the file. Microsoft adds its own markup that is based on XML garbage.

After you save the file, if you open it in notepad, you will see what I am talking about. It is pretty nasty. Modifying it is a royal pain. You are best redoing your own stylesheet.




**************************************************

Jean-Pierre Jamous
Digital Accessibility Specialist & Developer
UI Accessibility Team

The only limitations in life are those we set for ourselves

**************************************************


From: Stacey Rayos
Date: Fri, Aug 19 2016 1:34PM
Subject: Re: Batch HTML maker
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This one has worked for us better than anything else so far:
https://html-cleaner.com/

As far as batch processing, we have not been able to locate any
consistently effective tools yet.



On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:08 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hi Jim,
>
> It can be any type of document, simple or complex.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Lisa,
> > I don't have personal experience with what you just said, but I am about
> > to give a tool I have here a try to see what happens. Can you give me an
> > idea how complex one of your documents is, so I can try to produce a
> > similar test here? If
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > =========> > Jim Homme,
> > Accessibility Consultant,
> > Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
> > Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
> > 412-787-8567,
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> > accessible-technology-solutions
> > E+R=O
> >
> >

From: L Snider
Date: Fri, Aug 19 2016 2:01PM
Subject: Re: Batch HTML maker
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Hi Stacey,

Thanks! Now if I could find something similar as a program I can download,
then that would be perfect. This is good for most of my documents, but I
have a few documents that are restricted and shouldn't be done this way (I
know the info isn't stored but I need to be very conservative with a couple
of these!).

We can definitely start with this one for now.

Cheers

Lisa



On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Stacey Rayos < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> This one has worked for us better than anything else so far:
> https://html-cleaner.com/
>
> As far as batch processing, we have not been able to locate any
> consistently effective tools yet.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:08 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > It can be any type of document, simple or complex.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Lisa,
> > > I don't have personal experience with what you just said, but I am
> about
> > > to give a tool I have here a try to see what happens. Can you give me
> an
> > > idea how complex one of your documents is, so I can try to produce a
> > > similar test here? If
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > =========> > > Jim Homme,
> > > Accessibility Consultant,
> > > Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
> > > Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
> > > 412-787-8567,
> > > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > > http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> > > accessible-technology-solutions
> > > E+R=O
> > >
> > >

From: Stacey Rayos
Date: Fri, Aug 19 2016 2:07PM
Subject: Re: Batch HTML maker
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You're welcome!

I did notice this on their FAQ page <https://htmlg.com/help/>:

Q: Is there an offline version?
A: There's no offline version but the program needs internet connection
only when you load the page. After that you can disconnect because
everything is executed on the client side.

So - not as convenient since you'd have to go on and off of the internet
with each doc... but likely faster than a manual clean-up job. I also wish
this were available as an offline, local application.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 3:01 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hi Stacey,
>
> Thanks! Now if I could find something similar as a program I can download,
> then that would be perfect. This is good for most of my documents, but I
> have a few documents that are restricted and shouldn't be done this way (I
> know the info isn't stored but I need to be very conservative with a couple
> of these!).
>
> We can definitely start with this one for now.
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Stacey Rayos < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > This one has worked for us better than anything else so far:
> > https://html-cleaner.com/
> >
> > As far as batch processing, we have not been able to locate any
> > consistently effective tools yet.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:08 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jim,
> > >
> > > It can be any type of document, simple or complex.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Lisa
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Lisa,
> > > > I don't have personal experience with what you just said, but I am
> > about
> > > > to give a tool I have here a try to see what happens. Can you give me
> > an
> > > > idea how complex one of your documents is, so I can try to produce a
> > > > similar test here? If
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > =========> > > > Jim Homme,
> > > > Accessibility Consultant,
> > > > Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
> > > > Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
> > > > 412-787-8567,
> > > > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > > > http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> > > > accessible-technology-solutions
> > > > E+R=O
> > > >
> > > >

From: L Snider
Date: Fri, Aug 19 2016 2:31PM
Subject: Re: Batch HTML maker
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Hi Stacey,

Yes, I saw that too so I would believe them in terms of non storage. I have
a couple of documents that need an offline, non website solution but for
the rest this would work great!

I am still exploring download programs, will let you know if I come across
anything good!

Cheers

Lisa

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Stacey Rayos < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> You're welcome!
>
> I did notice this on their FAQ page <https://htmlg.com/help/>:
>
> Q: Is there an offline version?
> A: There's no offline version but the program needs internet connection
> only when you load the page. After that you can disconnect because
> everything is executed on the client side.
>
> So - not as convenient since you'd have to go on and off of the internet
> with each doc... but likely faster than a manual clean-up job. I also wish
> this were available as an offline, local application.
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 3:01 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > Hi Stacey,
> >
> > Thanks! Now if I could find something similar as a program I can
> download,
> > then that would be perfect. This is good for most of my documents, but I
> > have a few documents that are restricted and shouldn't be done this way
> (I
> > know the info isn't stored but I need to be very conservative with a
> couple
> > of these!).
> >
> > We can definitely start with this one for now.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Stacey Rayos < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This one has worked for us better than anything else so far:
> > > https://html-cleaner.com/
> > >
> > > As far as batch processing, we have not been able to locate any
> > > consistently effective tools yet.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:08 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Jim,
> > > >
> > > > It can be any type of document, simple or complex.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Lisa
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Lisa,
> > > > > I don't have personal experience with what you just said, but I am
> > > about
> > > > > to give a tool I have here a try to see what happens. Can you give
> me
> > > an
> > > > > idea how complex one of your documents is, so I can try to produce
> a
> > > > > similar test here? If
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > =========> > > > > Jim Homme,
> > > > > Accessibility Consultant,
> > > > > Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
> > > > > Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
> > > > > 412-787-8567,
> > > > > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > > > > http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> > > > > accessible-technology-solutions
> > > > > E+R=O
> > > > >
> > > > >

From: Jim Homme
Date: Fri, Aug 19 2016 2:40PM
Subject: Re: Batch HTML maker
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Hi,
I sent a message with an attached Word document and an attached HTML document that I converted. It may not get approved. If anyone is interested, I'll forward the message to you privately.

Jim


=========Jim Homme,
Accessibility Consultant,
Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
412-787-8567,
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-solutions
E+R=O

From: L Snider
Date: Fri, Aug 19 2016 2:46PM
Subject: Re: Batch HTML maker
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Hi Jim,

Feel free to message me privately, I would love to see the results.

Cheers

Lisa

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hi,
> I sent a message with an attached Word document and an attached HTML
> document that I converted. It may not get approved. If anyone is
> interested, I'll forward the message to you privately.
>
> Jim
>
>
> =========> Jim Homme,
> Accessibility Consultant,
> Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
> Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
> 412-787-8567,
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> accessible-technology-solutions
> E+R=O
>
>

From: Jamous, JP
Date: Fri, Aug 19 2016 4:15PM
Subject: Re: Batch HTML maker
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Can you send it to me privately please? It did not come through.

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**************************************************

Jean-Pierre Jamous
Digital Accessibility Specialist & Developer
UI Accessibility Team

The only limitations in life are those we set for ourselves

**************************************************


From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Fri, Aug 19 2016 7:00PM
Subject: Re: Batch HTML maker
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> I have a lot of Word and PDF documents that I want to make into HTML files,

Have you checked out PDF Go HTML ?
https://www.callassoftware.com/en/products/pdfgohtml

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2016, at 12:35 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have a lot of Word and PDF documents that I want to make into HTML files,
> in as automated a way as possible (I am okay doing it one by one though if
> needed). However, I want the HTML to be clean and not full of code bits
> that shouldn't be there.
>
> I know Word has the Save As HTML but the code is gross and bloated.
>
> Anyone using a system that produces HTML with good clean code?
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
> > > >

From: Ryan E. Benson
Date: Fri, Aug 19 2016 7:07PM
Subject: Re: Batch HTML maker
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Jim. You could paste the code into a pastebin or something like that and
share the link

Ryan E. Benson

On Aug 19, 2016 16:41, "Jim Homme" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hi,
> I sent a message with an attached Word document and an attached HTML
> document that I converted. It may not get approved. If anyone is
> interested, I'll forward the message to you privately.
>
> Jim
>
>
> =========> Jim Homme,
> Accessibility Consultant,
> Bender HighTest Accessibility Team
> Bender Consulting Services, Inc.,
> 412-787-8567,
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> accessible-technology-solutions
> E+R=O
>
>

From: L Snider
Date: Tue, Aug 23 2016 2:01PM
Subject: Re: Batch HTML maker
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Hi Jonathan,

Thanks! Haven't used it, so I will check it out.

Cheers

Lisa

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Jonathan Avila < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> > I have a lot of Word and PDF documents that I want to make into HTML
> files,
>
> Have you checked out PDF Go HTML ?
> https://www.callassoftware.com/en/products/pdfgohtml
>
> Jonathan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 19, 2016, at 12:35 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I have a lot of Word and PDF documents that I want to make into HTML
> files,
> > in as automated a way as possible (I am okay doing it one by one though
> if
> > needed). However, I want the HTML to be clean and not full of code bits
> > that shouldn't be there.
> >
> > I know Word has the Save As HTML but the code is gross and bloated.
> >
> > Anyone using a system that produces HTML with good clean code?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Lisa
> > > > > > > > > > > > >