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From: L Snider
Date: Fri, Jan 26 2018 5:14PM
Subject: Webex and Adobe Connect
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Hi All,

I was wondering if anyone had a preference between Webex and Adobe Connect
in terms of accessibility (not price, functions, etc.).

For myself, I have preferred Connect the last year, but just wanted to see
what everyone thought in terms of accessibility. Or do you have a different
program you like better?

Cheers

Lisa

From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Fri, Jan 26 2018 7:27PM
Subject: Re: Webex and Adobe Connect
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Lisa, I have found the Zoom conferencing software pretty accessible.

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 26, 2018, at 7:15 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I was wondering if anyone had a preference between Webex and Adobe Connect
> in terms of accessibility (not price, functions, etc.).
>
> For myself, I have preferred Connect the last year, but just wanted to see
> what everyone thought in terms of accessibility. Or do you have a different
> program you like better?
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
> > > >

From: L Snider
Date: Fri, Jan 26 2018 7:52PM
Subject: Re: Webex and Adobe Connect
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Hi Jonathan.

Super, thanks so much!

Cheers

Lisa

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:27 PM, Jonathan Avila < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Lisa, I have found the Zoom conferencing software pretty accessible.
>
> Jonathan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 26, 2018, at 7:15 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone had a preference between Webex and Adobe
> Connect
> > in terms of accessibility (not price, functions, etc.).
> >
> > For myself, I have preferred Connect the last year, but just wanted to
> see
> > what everyone thought in terms of accessibility. Or do you have a
> different
> > program you like better?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Lisa
> > > > > > > > > > > > >

From: TJ McElroy gMail
Date: Sat, Jan 27 2018 10:57AM
Subject: Re: Webex and Adobe Connect
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Lisa,

we are in the middle of testing Adobe Connect and Zoom.

So far Adobe is winning because we can not seem to get ZoomText to work with
Zoom.

If anyone has tips for getting ZoomText to work with Zoom, please give a
shout.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Avila" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Webex and Adobe Connect


Lisa, I have found the Zoom conferencing software pretty accessible.

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 26, 2018, at 7:15 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I was wondering if anyone had a preference between Webex and Adobe Connect
> in terms of accessibility (not price, functions, etc.).
>
> For myself, I have preferred Connect the last year, but just wanted to see
> what everyone thought in terms of accessibility. Or do you have a
> different
> program you like better?
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
> > > >

From: L Snider
Date: Sat, Jan 27 2018 12:29PM
Subject: Re: Webex and Adobe Connect
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HI TJ,

Interesting to know! If you find out more about the ZoomText and Zoom, do
let me know, I am curious!

Cheers

Lisa

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 11:57 AM, TJ McElroy gMail < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Lisa,
>
> we are in the middle of testing Adobe Connect and Zoom.
>
> So far Adobe is winning because we can not seem to get ZoomText to work
> with
> Zoom.
>
> If anyone has tips for getting ZoomText to work with Zoom, please give a
> shout.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Avila" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 9:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Webex and Adobe Connect
>
>
> Lisa, I have found the Zoom conferencing software pretty accessible.
>
> Jonathan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 26, 2018, at 7:15 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone had a preference between Webex and Adobe
> Connect
> > in terms of accessibility (not price, functions, etc.).
> >
> > For myself, I have preferred Connect the last year, but just wanted to
> see
> > what everyone thought in terms of accessibility. Or do you have a
> > different
> > program you like better?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Lisa
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >

From: Karin Carlson
Date: Sun, Jan 28 2018 4:00PM
Subject: Re: Webex and Adobe Connect
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Hello everyone. I teach remote classes and I recently had a blind student share with me that Adobe Connect is very much more accessible then WebEx. The class was being taught with WebEx, and he had a lot of problems with it. For instance, the chat feature didn't work for him. As an instructor, I have noticed that while WebEx is running, many of my key commands that I use to demonstrate screen readers stop working, for example key combinations to enter and read through a table on a web page.
Karin 


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

From: L Snider
Date: Sun, Jan 28 2018 4:26PM
Subject: Re: Webex and Adobe Connect
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Hi Karin,

Thanks for sharing that information. Connect has been good for a while, so
good to know it is still doing okay.

Cheers

Lisa

On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 5:00 PM, Karin Carlson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Hello everyone. I teach remote classes and I recently had a blind student
> share with me that Adobe Connect is very much more accessible then WebEx.
> The class was being taught with WebEx, and he had a lot of problems with
> it. For instance, the chat feature didn't work for him. As an instructor, I
> have noticed that while WebEx is running, many of my key commands that I
> use to demonstrate screen readers stop working, for example key
> combinations to enter and read through a table on a web page.
>
> Karin
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>

From: Mallory
Date: Mon, Jan 29 2018 4:02AM
Subject: Re: Webex and Adobe Connect
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I tested a range of browser-based internet messaging apps (anymeeting, zoom, google hangouts, some other one who keeps sending me spam). None of them let me pass on my zoomed screen to others but I suspect that's to do with browsers getting their graphics from some separate channel than what I'm getting on my screen via ZT. Therefore I don't think any of these could do that.

If WebEx can that would be amazing (maybe it can because it uses Java but then that's one reason we stopped using it, there was a security issue (CVE-2017-3823)).

Zoom was great in general for accessibility for conferencing, but still looking for what could let me show my magnified screen to others without taking pictures with a separate camera.

cheers
Mallory

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018, at 8:29 PM, L Snider wrote:
> HI TJ,
>
> Interesting to know! If you find out more about the ZoomText and Zoom, do
> let me know, I am curious!
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 11:57 AM, TJ McElroy gMail < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > Lisa,
> >
> > we are in the middle of testing Adobe Connect and Zoom.
> >
> > So far Adobe is winning because we can not seem to get ZoomText to work
> > with
> > Zoom.
> >
> > If anyone has tips for getting ZoomText to work with Zoom, please give a
> > shout.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jonathan Avila" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 9:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Webex and Adobe Connect
> >
> >
> > Lisa, I have found the Zoom conferencing software pretty accessible.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jan 26, 2018, at 7:15 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I was wondering if anyone had a preference between Webex and Adobe
> > Connect
> > > in terms of accessibility (not price, functions, etc.).
> > >
> > > For myself, I have preferred Connect the last year, but just wanted to
> > see
> > > what everyone thought in terms of accessibility. Or do you have a
> > > different
> > > program you like better?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Lisa
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > >

From: Lisa Snider
Date: Mon, Jan 29 2018 6:54AM
Subject: Re: Webex and Adobe Connect
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Hi Mallory,

Good to know, thanks! So were you using browser zoom or computer magnification? I am wondering if one would work and the other not?

Plus, anyone use these with Dragon? I will be testing it with that soon, but was curious.

Cheers

Lisa

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2018, at 5:02 AM, Mallory < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> I tested a range of browser-based internet messaging apps (anymeeting, zoom, google hangouts, some other one who keeps sending me spam). None of them let me pass on my zoomed screen to others but I suspect that's to do with browsers getting their graphics from some separate channel than what I'm getting on my screen via ZT. Therefore I don't think any of these could do that.
>
> If WebEx can that would be amazing (maybe it can because it uses Java but then that's one reason we stopped using it, there was a security issue (CVE-2017-3823)).
>
> Zoom was great in general for accessibility for conferencing, but still looking for what could let me show my magnified screen to others without taking pictures with a separate camera.
>
> cheers
> Mallory
>
>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018, at 8:29 PM, L Snider wrote:
>> HI TJ,
>>
>> Interesting to know! If you find out more about the ZoomText and Zoom, do
>> let me know, I am curious!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 11:57 AM, TJ McElroy gMail < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lisa,
>>>
>>> we are in the middle of testing Adobe Connect and Zoom.
>>>
>>> So far Adobe is winning because we can not seem to get ZoomText to work
>>> with
>>> Zoom.
>>>
>>> If anyone has tips for getting ZoomText to work with Zoom, please give a
>>> shout.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jonathan Avila" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>>> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 9:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Webex and Adobe Connect
>>>
>>>
>>> Lisa, I have found the Zoom conferencing software pretty accessible.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jan 26, 2018, at 7:15 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering if anyone had a preference between Webex and Adobe
>>> Connect
>>>> in terms of accessibility (not price, functions, etc.).
>>>>
>>>> For myself, I have preferred Connect the last year, but just wanted to
>>> see
>>>> what everyone thought in terms of accessibility. Or do you have a
>>>> different
>>>> program you like better?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Lisa
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>

From: Bourne, Sarah (MASSIT)
Date: Mon, Jan 29 2018 8:31AM
Subject: Re: Webex and Adobe Connect
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Mallory and TJ, could you clarify what you mean by "works"? It seems there are two cases:
1. As an observer of a presentation, can you use ZoomText to meet your needs?
2. As a presenter, does it show others what you see on your screen?

Ideally, it should do both, of course. In real life, though, you might put up with a failure in the second case if the first works well.

sb

Sarah E. Bourne
Director of IT Accessibility
Executive Office of Technology Services and Security (EOTSS)
1 Ashburton Place, 8th Floor, Boston, MA 02108
Office: (617) 626-4502
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = | www.mass.gov/eotss

From: Ryan E. Benson
Date: Mon, Jan 29 2018 8:49AM
Subject: Re: Webex and Adobe Connect
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I agree with Mallory on her comments on Zoom and ZT, but I haven't used it
in over 6 months. It is just pretty clunky in some features, meaning a user
may need to figure out how some stuff works versus just jumping into a
meeting. Also, there are or were issues with color contrast.

Ryan E. Benson

On Jan 29, 2018 10:31, "Bourne, Sarah (MASSIT)" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Mallory and TJ, could you clarify what you mean by "works"? It seems
> there are two cases:
> 1. As an observer of a presentation, can you use ZoomText to meet your
> needs?
> 2. As a presenter, does it show others what you see on your screen?
>
> Ideally, it should do both, of course. In real life, though, you might
> put up with a failure in the second case if the first works well.
>
> sb
>
> Sarah E. Bourne
> Director of IT Accessibility
> Executive Office of Technology Services and Security (EOTSS)
> 1 Ashburton Place, 8th Floor, Boston, MA 02108
> Office: (617) 626-4502
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = | www.mass.gov/eotss
>
>
> > > > >

From: Steve Green
Date: Mon, Jan 29 2018 8:49AM
Subject: Re: Webex and Adobe Connect
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ZoomText is doing processing on the video card, the output of which is not available to other applications. The solution is to use a scan converter, which takes the signal from the output of the video card. This can be fed back into the same machine via a USB port and used as the video source for other applications. This is how we do screen recordings of ZoomText when we're doing user testing.

The product we use is the Avermedia ExtremeCap U3, which costs about £120 plus shipping.

Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd

From: Mallory
Date: Mon, Jan 29 2018 10:28AM
Subject: Re: Webex and Adobe Connect
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Wow thank you very much!!!

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018, at 4:49 PM, Steve Green wrote:
> ZoomText is doing processing on the video card, the output of which is
> not available to other applications. The solution is to use a scan
> converter, which takes the signal from the output of the video card.
> This can be fed back into the same machine via a USB port and used as
> the video source for other applications. This is how we do screen
> recordings of ZoomText when we're doing user testing.
>
> The product we use is the Avermedia ExtremeCap U3, which costs about
> £120 plus shipping.
>
> Steve Green
> Managing Director
> Test Partners Ltd
>
>
>

From: L Snider
Date: Mon, Jan 29 2018 12:10PM
Subject: Re: Webex and Adobe Connect
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Thanks everyone, great information and good to know Steve about that
product!

Cheers

Lisa

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:49 AM, Steve Green < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> wrote:

> ZoomText is doing processing on the video card, the output of which is not
> available to other applications. The solution is to use a scan converter,
> which takes the signal from the output of the video card. This can be fed
> back into the same machine via a USB port and used as the video source for
> other applications. This is how we do screen recordings of ZoomText when
> we're doing user testing.
>
> The product we use is the Avermedia ExtremeCap U3, which costs about £120
> plus shipping.
>
> Steve Green
> Managing Director
> Test Partners Ltd
>
>
>