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From: Peter Shikli
Date: Sat, Mar 17 2018 2:58PM
Subject: Inmates Viewing Forum
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Over the last year, I've taught a half dozen inmates at a women's prison
to do website accessibility audits.  To keep them current, I would like
to show them printed copies of this forum's postings, with names,
phones, and email addresses redacted with black marker. If anyone cares
to make suggestions, please feel free.  If anyone objects, please post
your objection here and I won't do it.  If you're interested in why I'm
doing all this, please see www.access2online.com/whyinmates.htm

Cheers,
Peter Shikli
Access2online
A Division of Bizware Online Applications, Inc.
29030 SW Town Center Loop East
Suite 202-187
Wilsonville, OR 97070
503-570-6831 - = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Cell: 949-677-3705
FAX: 503-582-8337
www.access2online.com
Prison inmates helping websites become accessible

From: glen walker
Date: Sat, Mar 17 2018 4:04PM
Subject: Re: Inmates Viewing Forum
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I don't think anyone can prevent you from doing this even if they had
objections, but thanks for asking.

What are the logistics? Are you using the list archives? Are you going to
manually go to each thread topic and select "View all messages in this
Thread" so that you can see the entire discussion on one page? If so,
you'll get a lot of repeated text because when people reply, it often
includes a copy of the mail they're replying to. For example, the "Selects
with drop downs" thread, when I view all the messages, the original
question is repeated 18 times and would take about 70 pages if you were to
print it.

If you're going to manually prepare a document to print, the names and
phones could be manually removed from the document. The archives should
already have emails removed.

If you want other current discussions to print, you could look at
stackoverflow.com and view anything with an "accessibility" tag.


On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 2:58 PM, Peter Shikli < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Over the last year, I've taught a half dozen inmates at a women's prison
> to do website accessibility audits. To keep them current, I would like to
> show them printed copies of this forum's postings, with names, phones, and
> email addresses redacted with black marker. If anyone cares to make
> suggestions, please feel free. If anyone objects, please post your
> objection here and I won't do it. If you're interested in why I'm doing
> all this, please see www.access2online.com/whyinmates.htm
>
> Cheers,
> Peter Shikli
> Access2online
> A Division of Bizware Online Applications, Inc.
> 29030 SW Town Center Loop East
> Suite 202-187
> Wilsonville, OR 97070
> 503-570-6831 - = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Cell: 949-677-3705
> FAX: 503-582-8337
> www.access2online.com
> Prison inmates helping websites become accessible
>
> > > > >

From: Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne)
Date: Mon, Mar 19 2018 5:28AM
Subject: Re: Inmates Viewing Forum
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The large amounts of repeatedly quoted content would definitely be a realistic consideration. You might try (which is what I've done when I wanted to compile opinions from a thread) copy-pasting relevant responses. At that point, you could strip out PII.

Thanks for asking.

---
Mike S. Henry
Creative Services Lead
IntelliDyne Contract Employee
Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
Desk: (703) 882-3962


On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 2:58 PM, Peter Shikli < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Over the last year, I've taught a half dozen inmates at a women's prison
> to do website accessibility audits. To keep them current, I would like to
> show them printed copies of this forum's postings, with names, phones, and
> email addresses redacted with black marker. If anyone cares to make
> suggestions, please feel free. If anyone objects, please post your
> objection here and I won't do it. If you're interested in why I'm doing
> all this, please see www.access2online.com/whyinmates.htm<;http://www.access2online.com/whyinmates.htm>;
>
> Cheers,
> Peter Shikli
> Access2online
> A Division of Bizware Online Applications, Inc.
> 29030 SW Town Center Loop East
> Suite 202-187
> Wilsonville, OR 97070
> 503-570-6831 - = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Cell: 949-677-3705
> FAX: 503-582-8337
> www.access2online.com<;http://www.access2online.com>;
> Prison inmates helping websites become accessible

From: Pyatt, Elizabeth J
Date: Mon, Mar 19 2018 12:41PM
Subject: Re: Inmates Viewing Forum
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Peter:

I also second Mike Henry's recommendation for the logistical reasons he mentions.

However, I do feel it's important to help educate inmates for the future outside of prison.
My understanding is that there is a relatively high percentage of learning disabilities in the inmate population.
odpc.ucsf.edu/sites/odpc.ucsf.edu/files/pdf_docs/REVISEDforensicpsychSQ.pdf

Best of luck.
Elizabeth

> On Mar 19, 2018, at 2:00 PM, = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = wrote:
>
> From: "Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne)" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Inmates Viewing Forum
> Date: March 19, 2018 at 7:28:18 AM EDT
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>
>
> The large amounts of repeatedly quoted content would definitely be a realistic consideration. You might try (which is what I've done when I wanted to compile opinions from a thread) copy-pasting relevant responses. At that point, you could strip out PII.
>
> Thanks for asking.
>
> ---
> Mike S. Henry
> Creative Services Lead
> IntelliDyne Contract Employee
> Supporting Enterprise Infrastructure (formerly Military Health System Cyberinfrastructure Services - MCiS)
> Desk: (703) 882-3962
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 2:58 PM, Peter Shikli < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Over the last year, I've taught a half dozen inmates at a women's prison
>> to do website accessibility audits. To keep them current, I would like to
>> show them printed copies of this forum's postings, with names, phones, and
>> email addresses redacted with black marker. If anyone cares to make
>> suggestions, please feel free. If anyone objects, please post your
>> objection here and I won't do it. If you're interested in why I'm doing
>> all this, please see www.access2online.com/whyinmates.htm<;http://www.access2online.com/whyinmates.htm>;
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Peter Shikli
>> Access2online
>> A Division of Bizware Online Applications, Inc.
>> 29030 SW Town Center Loop East
>> Suite 202-187
>> Wilsonville, OR 97070
>> 503-570-6831 - = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Cell: 949-677-3705
>> FAX: 503-582-8337
>> www.access2online.com<;http://www.access2online.com>;
>> Prison inmates helping websites become accessible
>

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
Accessibility IT Consultant
Teaching and Learning with Technology
Penn State University
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = , (814) 865-0805 or (814) 865-2030 (Main Office)

The 300 Building, 112
304 West College Avenue
University Park, PA 16802
http://accessibility.psu.edu