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From: Chris Westbrook
Date: Fri, Apr 27 2018 5:21AM
Subject: introduction and a question
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Hello to all. I am a totally blind web developer loking to upgrade my
skills. I have been working on an enterprise asp.net webforms project for
the past 10 years and am trying to learn some more modern technologies like
aira and javascript frameworks, etc. Currently I am building a little app
in angular. I am new to aria, but I am noticing when I have
aria-atomic="true" and aria-live="polite" that the region is being read
multiple times even though it is only changing once. It is reading the same
thing twice so I know it is not changing. Are there any good tips for
troubleshooting what might be going on? I have fields changing based on
calculations, and I would like those changes announced but only once. Is
there a better way to communicate to screen readers something has changed
other than aria-live, perhaps with a notification or something? Obviously
sighted people would just see the changes on the screen. Also do you have
any tips on using he firefox console, it seems to be a semipainful
experience, if I console.lg an object nvda doesn't read it at all it just
says treeview. Thanks for any feedback you can provide.
From: Reinhard Stebner
Date: Fri, Apr 27 2018 6:35AM
Subject: Re: introduction and a question
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See The below blog posts for accessibility related content in regards to Firefox developer toolbar.
https://www.marcozehe.de/2016/01/26/making-the-firefox-developer-tools-accessible/
https://www.marcozehe.de/2018/04/11/introducing-the-accessibility-inspector-in-the-firefox-developer-tools/
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> On Apr 27, 2018, at 7:21 AM, Chris Westbrook < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hello to all. I am a totally blind web developer loking to upgrade my
> skills. I have been working on an enterprise asp.net webforms project for
> the past 10 years and am trying to learn some more modern technologies like
> aira and javascript frameworks, etc. Currently I am building a little app
> in angular. I am new to aria, but I am noticing when I have
> aria-atomic="true" and aria-live="polite" that the region is being read
> multiple times even though it is only changing once. It is reading the same
> thing twice so I know it is not changing. Are there any good tips for
> troubleshooting what might be going on? I have fields changing based on
> calculations, and I would like those changes announced but only once. Is
> there a better way to communicate to screen readers something has changed
> other than aria-live, perhaps with a notification or something? Obviously
> sighted people would just see the changes on the screen. Also do you have
> any tips on using he firefox console, it seems to be a semipainful
> experience, if I console.lg an object nvda doesn't read it at all it just
> says treeview. Thanks for any feedback you can provide.
> > > >
From: glen walker
Date: Fri, Apr 27 2018 7:48AM
Subject: Re: introduction and a question
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Without seeing the code, it's difficult to determine why things are reading
twice. For example, it might be read once because of the aria-live and
then might be read again if you programmatically move the focus to the
thing that changed.
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 6:35 AM, Reinhard Stebner <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> See The below blog posts for accessibility related content in regards to
> Firefox developer toolbar.
>
> https://www.marcozehe.de/2016/01/26/making-the-firefox-
> developer-tools-accessible/
> https://www.marcozehe.de/2018/04/11/introducing-the-
> accessibility-inspector-in-the-firefox-developer-tools/
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 27, 2018, at 7:21 AM, Chris Westbrook < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello to all. I am a totally blind web developer loking to upgrade my
> > skills. I have been working on an enterprise asp.net webforms project
> for
> > the past 10 years and am trying to learn some more modern technologies
> like
> > aira and javascript frameworks, etc. Currently I am building a little app
> > in angular. I am new to aria, but I am noticing when I have
> > aria-atomic="true" and aria-live="polite" that the region is being read
> > multiple times even though it is only changing once. It is reading the
> same
> > thing twice so I know it is not changing. Are there any good tips for
> > troubleshooting what might be going on? I have fields changing based on
> > calculations, and I would like those changes announced but only once. Is
> > there a better way to communicate to screen readers something has changed
> > other than aria-live, perhaps with a notification or something? Obviously
> > sighted people would just see the changes on the screen. Also do you have
> > any tips on using he firefox console, it seems to be a semipainful
> > experience, if I console.lg an object nvda doesn't read it at all it just
> > says treeview. Thanks for any feedback you can provide.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >