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From: Barry Hill
Date: Thu, Sep 26 2019 9:49AM
Subject: Jaws going to top of page when closing modal
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Hi all



Why would Jaws with Chrome throw the user back to the top of a page when
closing a modal on a web page? Is it a Jaws issue, a Chrome issue or a
coding issue?



Thanks in anticipation .



Cheers



Barry

From: Kathryn.Frederick
Date: Thu, Sep 26 2019 9:52AM
Subject: Re: Jaws going to top of page when closing modal
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This soundslike a coding issue to me.

Katie Frederick

From: Michael Ausbun
Date: Thu, Sep 26 2019 10:03AM
Subject: Re: Jaws going to top of page when closing modal
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Hi Barry,
Would you be willing to provide a code snippet, so we can pr=
ovide feedback? This issue sounds like a coding issue to me. Although this =
particular link may not fit your needs exactly, it may be useful:
https://medium.com/@matuzo/writing-javascript-with-accessibility-in-mind-a1=
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HTH:
Michael



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Salt Lake City, Utah
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Western Governors University
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Salt Lake City, UT 84107
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Hi all



Why would Jaws with Chrome throw the user back to the top of a page when
closing a modal on a web page? Is it a Jaws issue, a Chrome issue or a
coding issue?



Thanks in anticipation .



Cheers



Barry







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From: Patrick H. Lauke
Date: Thu, Sep 26 2019 10:35AM
Subject: Re: Jaws going to top of page when closing modal
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On 26/09/2019 16:49, Barry Hill wrote:
> Why would Jaws with Chrome throw the user back to the top of a page when
> closing a modal on a web page?

Because once the modal dialog is closed, focus isn't programmatically
set back to the most sensible location of the page (usually, the control
that first opened the modal). So when the modal disappears, the element
that currently had focus also vanished, so focus is reset back to the
start of the document.

In short, a coding issue.

P
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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Thu, Sep 26 2019 8:28PM
Subject: Re: Jaws going to top of page when closing modal
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Yeap, what Patrick said. If you do not specify where focus should go
after a modal closes the browser will send it to the start of the
document.


On 9/26/19, Patrick H. Lauke < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> On 26/09/2019 16:49, Barry Hill wrote:
>> Why would Jaws with Chrome throw the user back to the top of a page when
>> closing a modal on a web page?
>
> Because once the modal dialog is closed, focus isn't programmatically
> set back to the most sensible location of the page (usually, the control
> that first opened the modal). So when the modal disappears, the element
> that currently had focus also vanished, so focus is reset back to the
> start of the document.
>
> In short, a coding issue.
>
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From: David Engebretson Jr.
Date: Fri, Sep 27 2019 3:50PM
Subject: Re: Jaws going to top of page when closing modal
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This is a super confusing aspect to screen reader navigation with custom
elements; if the developer doesn't keep track of focus and set it to where
they want any users focus to be (screen reader user or not), it can become a
usability nightmare.

Hopefully, someday, setting focus won't be so dynamic or easy to forget. A
users focus should always be brought back to where they were, IMO. It's not
a difficult thing to do programmatically, but it is difficult for developers
to remember to provide the functionality. Why? You might ask? In my opinion
it is because that is not a part of the web developer curriculum. If
developers were to use a modal html5 <dialog> wouldn't focus be set to the
previous control automagically? If not, it should, in my thinking.

I love this list, btw. I'm always learning.

Best,
David

From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Fri, Sep 27 2019 5:28PM
Subject: Re: Jaws going to top of page when closing modal
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If the user interaction wit the dialog does not change the context of
the page (i.e. if user clicks "close" or "cancel") then, yes, browsers
should handle sending the focus back to the element that triggered the
dialog (if support for the <dialog> element is ever fully
implemented).
But if the user takes action that changes the context of the page,
like clicking "delete user" or something, developers will have to
manage the focus, only they will understand where it should go for
that situation.
I've been testing an Angular library from Google and I'll give them
that the dialogs are handled beautifully, focus is consistently
trapped in the dialog and sent back to the trigger when you click a
"close" or "cancel" button.

On 9/27/19, David Engebretson Jr. < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> This is a super confusing aspect to screen reader navigation with custom
> elements; if the developer doesn't keep track of focus and set it to where
> they want any users focus to be (screen reader user or not), it can become
> a
> usability nightmare.
>
> Hopefully, someday, setting focus won't be so dynamic or easy to forget. A
> users focus should always be brought back to where they were, IMO. It's not
> a difficult thing to do programmatically, but it is difficult for
> developers
> to remember to provide the functionality. Why? You might ask? In my opinion
> it is because that is not a part of the web developer curriculum. If
> developers were to use a modal html5 <dialog> wouldn't focus be set to the
> previous control automagically? If not, it should, in my thinking.
>
> I love this list, btw. I'm always learning.
>
> Best,
> David
>
>
>