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From: Wing Kuet
Date: Mon, Aug 10 2020 4:51AM
Subject: Visible labels for link, combobox and button?
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Does anyone have a view of whether there should there be visible labels for=
links, comboboxes and button for a form? I have a website built by one of =
our clients that do not place visible labels to the link, comboboxes and bu=
tton that are used to filter a list of search results? However, they all ea=
ch have an accessible name such as the following example where whatever tex=
t is displayed is used as the accessible name.

[A screenshot of a cell phone Description automatically generated]

If the links, combobox and button have an accessible name already would tha=
t suffice for success criteria 2.4.6 Headings and labels or does there need=
to be a visible label?

Regards,

Wing Kuet
Accessibility Consultant & Software Tester
Test Partners Ltd
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From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Mon, Aug 10 2020 9:38AM
Subject: Re: Visible labels for link, combobox and button?
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Most experts agree that SC 3.3.2 Labels or Instructions requires visible labels for input. Visible labels can take different forms including values in combo boxes, images/icons, and other controls as a label - but there needs to be some visible label as well that is persistent

Jonathan

From: Steve Green
Date: Mon, Aug 10 2020 10:01AM
Subject: Re: Visible labels for link, combobox and button?
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I cannot find anything in SC 3.3.2 that allows the use of images or icons as labels, and I always report that as a non-conformance. The nearest I can find is technique G167, which states "When a button invokes a function on an input field, has a clear text label, and is rendered adjacent to the input field, the button also acts as a label for the input field."

I also cannot see anything that permits the use of a combobox's default value as a label. That is no different from relying on the placeholder in a textbox insofar as the label is no longer visible once the value of the form control has been changed.

Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd

From: Patrick H. Lauke
Date: Mon, Aug 10 2020 4:57PM
Subject: Re: Visible labels for link, combobox and button?
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On 10/08/2020 17:01, Steve Green wrote:
> I cannot find anything in SC 3.3.2 that allows the use of images or icons as labels, and I always report that as a non-conformance.

I don't see anything in 3.3.2 that DISallows the use of images or icons
as labels. And in fact, the normative definition of label suggests that
an image/icon with an appropriate text alternative counts as a label

"label
text or other component with a text alternative that is presented to a
user to identify a component within Web content"
https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#dfn-labels

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From: Steve Green
Date: Mon, Aug 10 2020 6:11PM
Subject: Re: Visible labels for link, combobox and button?
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If that is the case (and I don't accept that it is), it seems curious that of the 16 examples and "sufficient techniques", there is not one that involves an image or icon. It doesn't look like the authors had anything in mind other than text labels.

The definition of a label is yet another example of bad authoring in WCAG. It states "A label is presented to all users", yet it also states that a label can be an "other component with a text alternative", which is therefore not presented to all users. So is a label presented to all users or not? The answer seems to be both yes and no.

The "understanding" page contains a couple of references to "clear and unambiguous labels and instructions". A handful of images and icons are sufficiently common that they might meet this description, but most are not. And people with cognitive impairment or low experience might not even recognise the common ones.

Steve