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From: jeffgutsell@fuse.net
Date: Fri, Feb 10 2023 11:45AM
Subject: puzzled by Wordpress dite
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Hi All,
I have recently started following the news stories at https://www.universetoday.com/. It runs on Wordpress.
I have had good luck reading the stories with Edge and JAWS. However, Reading and navigating the site with iOS Voiceover and Safari is difficult to say the least. I frequently encounter page parts that cause Voiceover to announce "insertion a click". What causes that?
I suspect that a publisher of astronomy news does not expect many blind readers, but I also think he may be willing to try to improve this.
Jeff Gutsell
From: Steve Green
Date: Sat, Feb 11 2023 8:48AM
Subject: Re: puzzled by Wordpress dite
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I have looked at the website using Voiceover on iOS and I never heard it say "insertion a click". Can you be more specific about where you hear this and how you were navigating?
That said, it was a horrible user experience. Not only is the page full of adverts, but when I clicked a link it opened even more adverts over the top, filling the whole screen. If I could not see the screen I would have had no idea what was happening. Even though I could see what was happening I could not work out what to do about it so I had to refresh the page to make the adverts go away.
Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd
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Sent: 10 February 2023 18:45
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Subject: [WebAIM] puzzled by Wordpress dite
Hi All,
I have recently started following the news stories at https://www.universetoday.com/. It runs on Wordpress.
I have had good luck reading the stories with Edge and JAWS. However, Reading and navigating the site with iOS Voiceover and Safari is difficult to say the least. I frequently encounter page parts that cause Voiceover to announce "insertion a click". What causes that?
I suspect that a publisher of astronomy news does not expect many blind readers, but I also think he may be willing to try to improve this.
Jeff Gutsell
From: jeffgutsell@fuse.net
Date: Sat, Feb 11 2023 2:36PM
Subject: Re: puzzled by Wordpress dite
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Steve,
I hear that phrase before Voiceover reads most links. Some of these are links to ads. At least once was a link to a news story. I found one link that does not seem to work at all, so I cannot tell what it is.
I also hear that at the top of the home page on something after the logo. I cannot hear anything useful about this object, but it is about where I encounter a menu button with a Windows browser.
I am worried that a small operation like this may not have the resources to fix Wordpress shortcomings. I was just hoping that I may get a positive response if I can give some specific feedback.
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Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2023 10:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] puzzled by Wordpress dite
I have looked at the website using Voiceover on iOS and I never heard it say "insertion a click". Can you be more specific about where you hear this and how you were navigating?
That said, it was a horrible user experience. Not only is the page full of adverts, but when I clicked a link it opened even more adverts over the top, filling the whole screen. If I could not see the screen I would have had no idea what was happening. Even though I could see what was happening I could not work out what to do about it so I had to refresh the page to make the adverts go away.
Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd
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Sent: 10 February 2023 18:45
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Subject: [WebAIM] puzzled by Wordpress dite
Hi All,
I have recently started following the news stories at https://www.universetoday.com/. It runs on Wordpress.
I have had good luck reading the stories with Edge and JAWS. However, Reading and navigating the site with iOS Voiceover and Safari is difficult to say the least. I frequently encounter page parts that cause Voiceover to announce "insertion a click". What causes that?
I suspect that a publisher of astronomy news does not expect many blind readers, but I also think he may be willing to try to improve this.
Jeff Gutsell
From: Steve Green
Date: Sat, Feb 11 2023 2:56PM
Subject: Re: puzzled by Wordpress dite
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Not only do I not hear what you are describing, but there is nothing in the code that would cause it. I would be the last person to defend WordPress, but the code looks absolutely normal.
I am using a totally default installation of Voiceover. Is it possible that you have turned on some feature that might be causing this on your device? Is it possible it is saying something different?
Steve
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Sent: 11 February 2023 21:37
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] puzzled by Wordpress dite
Steve,
I hear that phrase before Voiceover reads most links. Some of these are links to ads. At least once was a link to a news story. I found one link that does not seem to work at all, so I cannot tell what it is.
I also hear that at the top of the home page on something after the logo. I cannot hear anything useful about this object, but it is about where I encounter a menu button with a Windows browser.
I am worried that a small operation like this may not have the resources to fix Wordpress shortcomings. I was just hoping that I may get a positive response if I can give some specific feedback.
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From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Steve Green
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2023 10:48 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] puzzled by Wordpress dite
I have looked at the website using Voiceover on iOS and I never heard it say "insertion a click". Can you be more specific about where you hear this and how you were navigating?
That said, it was a horrible user experience. Not only is the page full of adverts, but when I clicked a link it opened even more adverts over the top, filling the whole screen. If I could not see the screen I would have had no idea what was happening. Even though I could see what was happening I could not work out what to do about it so I had to refresh the page to make the adverts go away.
Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd
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Sent: 10 February 2023 18:45
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: [WebAIM] puzzled by Wordpress dite
Hi All,
I have recently started following the news stories at https://www.universetoday.com/. It runs on Wordpress.
I have had good luck reading the stories with Edge and JAWS. However, Reading and navigating the site with iOS Voiceover and Safari is difficult to say the least. I frequently encounter page parts that cause Voiceover to announce "insertion a click". What causes that?
I suspect that a publisher of astronomy news does not expect many blind readers, but I also think he may be willing to try to improve this.
Jeff Gutsell
From: Glen Walker
Date: Sat, Feb 11 2023 3:10PM
Subject: Re: puzzled by Wordpress dite
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I donât hear any issues on iOS either but I also have the AdBlock app so I donât get all the adverts that Steve mentioned.
Iâm able to swipe through all the links on the page without any trouble. Even the âcontinue readingâ links have sufficient context by way of screen reader text which is unusual to see unless someone has done accessibility work on the website.
From: jeffgutsell@fuse.net
Date: Sun, Feb 12 2023 12:20PM
Subject: Re: puzzled by Wordpress dite
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Guys,
I really appreciate your feedback.
My problem must be something with my phone. It is an iPhone 8plus with all the system updates. It uses the Alex HD voice
I get the "insertion" messages mostly on ads, but also some links to stories. It happens in both Safari and Firefox
I will plug away at finding some feature to reset in my phone.
I have been trying to hang onto this phone because I am so used to the Home button. I hate to think about giving that up when I am forced to buy a new one.
Jeff
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Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2023 5:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] puzzled by Wordpress dite
I donât hear any issues on iOS either but I also have the AdBlock app so I donât get all the adverts that Steve mentioned.
Iâm able to swipe through all the links on the page without any trouble. Even the âcontinue readingâ links have sufficient context by way of screen reader text which is unusual to see unless someone has done accessibility work on the website.