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From: Michael Pastore
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2005 9:34AM
Subject: No Plug-Ins on Page, but Validator Thinks So
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Hello and thanks again.

With your help (a reply came in minutes!) the earlier problem was
fixed. I have one last hurdle to clear for 508 validation.

The validator thinks that I have plug-ins required on my page: I don't
believe that any plug-ins are needed to see my page, or anything
linked to my page.

My page is http://www.youthtopia.com

Here is the validator I've been using:
http://webxact.watchfire.com/ScanForm.aspx

Here is a screen capture of the problem:
http://photos10.flickr.com/11399184_7e1d502dea_o.jpg

After getting that error message, I tried to fool the validator and
make a link to a plug-in page, but that failed too.

Thanks for any help. Best wishes,

MP
http://www.youthtopia.com

From: Christian Heilmann
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2005 9:41AM
Subject: Re: No Plug-Ins on Page, but Validator Thinks So
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>Hello and thanks again.
>>
>> With your help (a reply came in minutes!) the earlier problem was
>> fixed. I have one last hurdle to clear for 508 validation.
>>
>> The validator thinks that I have plug-ins required on my page: I don't
>> believe that any plug-ins are needed to see my page, or anything
>> linked to my page.


Just check at the line number the validator throws up. Actually it is
more important to make sure the visitors can use your page, not that
you satisfy a validator. Both WAI and 508 are nice to follow, but do
not mean your site is accessible and usable.

For example your archives are not available without Javascript:
<input type="button" value="Go" onclick="window.location (document.forms.archiveform.archive_chrono[document.forms.archiveform.archive_chrono.selectedIndex].value);"
/></p>

A better option would be to write a PHP script as a fallback and call
the JavaScript above onsubmit of the form with a return false instead
of adding a click handler on the button.

http://icant.co.uk/forreview/tamingselect/

"But wait there is more" following...

HTH
Chris



-- Chris Heilmann
Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com
Writing: http://icant.co.uk/
Binaries: http://www.onlinetools.org/

From: Michael Pastore
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2005 10:59AM
Subject: Re: No Plug-Ins on Page, but Validator Thinks So
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Thanks again Chis! ...

I made a change -- not the one you've suggested, but a far simpler
one, in line with my tech-skill level. I cut out the drop-down box
completely for the Archives, and replaced it with a simple list.

And AGAIN, I am getting that same error message:
"Make sure there is a link to download accessible plug-ins."

Why is this message coming up? What plug-ins are needed to read any
part of my page? ...
Also, the validator page that flunks me for this error is not telling
me what line caused it. Here's the site where I failed the test:
http://webxact.watchfire.com/ScanForm.aspx
(I tested for 508, not the 3 levels of WAI)

Thanks again ...

MP
http://www.youthtopia.com