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From: Shrirang Prakash Sahasrabudhe
Date: Sun, Sep 14 2008 11:30PM
Subject: appropriate length for value of "title" attribute
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Hi,
What should be the maximum length of text used as "title" for links or form fields?
I believe, very long titles pose problems to screen magnifier users...
Can anyone share any experiences about use of title attribute and issues arising there of?
Thanks.
Shrirang


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From: Steve Green
Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 6:10AM
Subject: Re: appropriate length for value of "title" attribute
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Subject: [WebAIM] appropriate length for value of "title" attribute

Hi,
What should be the maximum length of text used as "title" for links or form
fields?
I believe, very long titles pose problems to screen magnifier users...
Can anyone share any experiences about use of title attribute and issues
arising there of?
Thanks.
Shrirang

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'title' attributes do not need to be particularly long in order to cause
problems for screen magnifier users. You cannot specify a maximum length
because people use magnification levels up to 32x, at which point just a few
characters will fill the width of the page.

One source of frustration is when the user cannot get rid of the tooltip
because it is associated with an element that fills the screen at the zoom
level they are using. This can happen with images, and it is a particular
problem when 'title' attributes are applied to block-level elements such as
divs, because they may not be visible.

Similar problems occur when the CSS property display:block is applied to an
element that has a 'title' attribute. The element may not be visible in the
user's viewport, so there is no apparent reason for the tooltip's presence.

Steve

From: Wayne Dick
Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 10:50AM
Subject: Re: appropriate length for value of "title" attribute
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While we can adjust a little for defects in media players that
provide zoom, thing like title length accessibility issues. Many
times this list advises people to use short titles for zoom, or
never use alt and title attributes with the same value. While
these features are anoying to users of assistive technology, the
problem does not reside with the web developer. Zoom should
figure ways to wrap title and alt attributes. Screen readers
should determine when attribute titles and alt attributes are
identicle.

If you write standards compliant code, browsers and assistive
technology can determine the values of all parameters. So, they
can provide the appropriate accomodation for their target group.

So, my advise is make your title values as long as the logic of
your page determines. Do not distort your content to accomodate
one group. The assistive technologies should do that.

I use screen readers, talking browsers, zoom technology and
special style sheets to read the web. Until assistive
technologies translate the well constructed DOMs they are given
to best serve their audience, most people with disabilities have
to juggle between a few technologies to read.

Wayne Dick



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> Hi,
> What should be the maximum length of text used as "title" for
> links or form fields?
> I believe, very long titles pose problems to screen magnifier
> users...
> Can anyone share any experiences about use of title attribute
> and issues arising there of?
> Thanks.
> Shrirang
>
>
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