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From: Geof Collis
Date: Thu, Apr 01 2010 8:24PM
Subject: Flash accessibility
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Hi All

While I find the title of this article at
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/03/31/f-visually-impaired-website-accessibility.html#socialcomments
very simplistic and misleading ,I'm wondering if the comment that
follows is very helpful to the accessibility movement:

at 6:35 PM ET Actually since this interview happened, exciting news
has been provided by Adobe. Exciting in the way that the horror
stories of trying to
make flash accessible is potentially over!.
The idea during this interview was that flash out of the box per say
is not accessible however with proper training, awareness and
knowledge flash and
images can be made accessible.
Currently Adobe now has a flyplayback component in CS4.
If you use flash to create a video player with the flvplayback
component in cs4 it is accessible out of the box!
http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/products/flash/

cheers

Geof




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From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: Thu, Apr 01 2010 9:45PM
Subject: Re: Flash accessibility
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Geof,
I'd say that the comment in the article is what is not helpful, as it implied that Flash can not be accessible at all, full stop.

The comment helps provide additional nuance to the picture - you can't say Flash is not accessible out of the box without knowing what the use of Flash is - some uses require more work to make accessible than others, just as is the case with HTML.

How do you feel that this hurts "the accessibility movement"? Is Adobe not part of this movement?

Thanks,
AWK

Andrew Kirkpatrick
Senior Product Manager, Accessibility
Adobe Systems

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From: Geof Collis
Date: Fri, Apr 02 2010 7:09AM
Subject: Re: Flash accessibility
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Hi Andrew

My mistake, it was not the comment that I was referring to, although
you've made an argument for it, I was referring to the title of the
article, it makes it sound as if things have turned a corner yet
there is still miles to go.

Of course Adobe is part of accessibility, I'd love to se Flash become
really accessible, remember I designed in it for 4 years and loved it. :O)

cheers

Geof



At 10:45 PM 4/1/2010, you wrote:
>Geof,
>I'd say that the comment in the article is what is not helpful, as
>it implied that Flash can not be accessible at all, full stop.
>
>The comment helps provide additional nuance to the picture - you
>can't say Flash is not accessible out of the box without knowing
>what the use of Flash is - some uses require more work to make
>accessible than others, just as is the case with HTML.
>
>How do you feel that this hurts "the accessibility movement"? Is
>Adobe not part of this movement?
>
>Thanks,
>AWK
>
>Andrew Kirkpatrick
>Senior Product Manager, Accessibility
>Adobe Systems
>
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>http://twitter.com/awkawk
>http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility
>
>
>