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From: LSnider
Date: Wed, Aug 31 2011 2:42PM
Subject: Word Headings and Title
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Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to confirm something about Word docs and making them
accessible.

I have a document that was made with a title and then headings after that,
and I didn't think that was the best way to go (they chose these from the
home ribbon bar in Word). What I would do is make the title of the document
as the H1 and then the major categories would be H2 and any sub categories
as H3, so for example:

This is the title of the Word doc (H1)

Category 1 (h2)
sub category 1A (h3)
Sub category 1B (h3)
Category 2 (h2)
sub category 2A (h3)
Sub category 2B (h3)

Would you agree?

From: Bevi Chagnon
Date: Wed, Aug 31 2011 2:48PM
Subject: Re: Word Headings and Title
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Yes, I agree.
I try to avoid the "Title" tag/heading because it can become confused with
the <Title> tag in HTML and that's really something different from what we
intend in a Word document.
I think we create a clearer hierarchy when H1 is the title of the document
with H2, H3, etc. afterwards.

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From: LSnider
Date: Wed, Aug 31 2011 3:15PM
Subject: Re: Word Headings and Title
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Hi Bevi,

I haven't seen a title mentioned in any of the articles about Word
accessibility, so that makes sense to me!

Cheers

Lisa

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Bevi Chagnon < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Yes, I agree.
> I try to avoid the "Title" tag/heading because it can become confused with
> the <Title> tag in HTML and that's really something different from what we
> intend in a Word document.
> I think we create a clearer hierarchy when H1 is the title of the document
> with H2, H3, etc. afterwards.
>
> --Bevi Chagnon
>
>

From: Christophe Strobbe
Date: Thu, Sep 01 2011 3:57AM
Subject: Re: Word Headings and Title
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At 22:34 31-8-2011, LSnider wrote:
>I just wanted to confirm something about Word docs and making them
>accessible.
>
>I have a document that was made with a title and then headings after that,
>and I didn't think that was the best way to go (they chose these from the
>home ribbon bar in Word). What I would do is make the title of the document
>as the H1 and then the major categories would be H2 and any sub categories
>as H3, so for example:

Both Microsoft Word and LibreOffice Writer / OpenOffice.org Writer
have a Title style that can be used for the document's title and a
Subtitle style for (obviously) the document's subtitle. Heading 1,
Heading 2, etcetera can then be used for chapter titles and chapter
subdivisions. These will show up in the Navigation panel (in MS Word)
or the Navigator (in Writer) and in the table of contents that you
can generate automatically in both word processors. (Title and
Subtitle do not show up in the Navigation or the table of contents.)

Using Heading 1 for the document title overthrows this model.

There is a mismatch between this model and the HTML model, which does
not have an element for the document title in the body and therefore
uses H1. Unfortunately, developers of HTML/XHTML export functions in
both MS Word and Writer are unaware of this mismatch (or don't care)
because Title and Subtitle are converted to styled paragraphs instead of H1.

Best regards,

Christophe



>This is the title of the Word doc (H1)
>
>Category 1 (h2)
>sub category 1A (h3)
>Sub category 1B (h3)
>Category 2 (h2)
>sub category 2A (h3)
>Sub category 2B (h3)
>
>Would you agree?


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From: LSnider
Date: Thu, Sep 01 2011 10:39AM
Subject: Re: Word Headings and Title
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Hi Christophe,

Interesting, thanks so much for sharing that information.

Cheers

Lisa

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Christophe Strobbe <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Both Microsoft Word and LibreOffice Writer / OpenOffice.org Writer
> have a Title style that can be used for the document's title and a
> Subtitle style for (obviously) the document's subtitle. Heading 1,
> Heading 2, etcetera can then be used for chapter titles and chapter
> subdivisions. These will show up in the Navigation panel (in MS Word)
> or the Navigator (in Writer) and in the table of contents that you
> can generate automatically in both word processors. (Title and
> Subtitle do not show up in the Navigation or the table of contents.)
>
> Using Heading 1 for the document title overthrows this model.
>
> There is a mismatch between this model and the HTML model, which does
> not have an element for the document title in the body and therefore
> uses H1. Unfortunately, developers of HTML/XHTML export functions in
> both MS Word and Writer are unaware of this mismatch (or don't care)
> because Title and Subtitle are converted to styled paragraphs instead of
> H1.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Christophe
>
>
>