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From: Jared Smith
Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 3:53PM
Subject: New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
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The fourth WebAIM screen reader user survey is now available at
http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey4/. The survey results
provide invaluable data for web developers, disability advocates, and
standards bodies. Please take the survey and help spread the word.

Jared Smith
WebAIM.org

From: Lucia Greco
Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 4:52PM
Subject: Re: New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
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I think you need to work on the survey a little more the radio buttons and
the check box questions did not read the question if I was in forms mode. I
had to keep dropping in and out of forms to find out what the question was.

-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Jared Smith
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:54 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey

The fourth WebAIM screen reader user survey is now available at
http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey4/. The survey results
provide invaluable data for web developers, disability advocates, and
standards bodies. Please take the survey and help spread the word.

Jared Smith
WebAIM.org

From: Jared Smith
Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 5:01PM
Subject: Re: New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
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On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Lucia Greco wrote:
> I think you need to work on the survey a little more the radio buttons and
> the check box questions did not read the question if I was in forms mode.

Lucia-

The survey uses proper labels and fielsets/legends, so I'm not sure
what the issue would be.

If you are using Window Eyes, it has never supported properly
formatted fieldsets and legends by default. I think there may be a
fieldset verbosity setting that you need to enable or customize. I
recommend that you bring this up with GW Micro (I have brought this to
their attention many times in the last several years) or use a screen
reader that supports form accessibility by default.

Jared

From: Lucia Greco
Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 5:07PM
Subject: Re: New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
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Hi:
I am using jaws.
I knew you would not have done it wrong. I am using jaws 13. And every time
the type of question was a check box or
A radio button I need to turn forms mode off. I would have stayed out of
forms mode but I needed to be in it to make choices in the combo boxes.
Strange at best.

-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf of Jared Smith
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 4:02 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Lucia Greco wrote:
> I think you need to work on the survey a little more the radio buttons
> and the check box questions did not read the question if I was in forms
mode.

Lucia-

The survey uses proper labels and fielsets/legends, so I'm not sure what the
issue would be.

If you are using Window Eyes, it has never supported properly formatted
fieldsets and legends by default. I think there may be a fieldset verbosity
setting that you need to enable or customize. I recommend that you bring
this up with GW Micro (I have brought this to their attention many times in
the last several years) or use a screen reader that supports form
accessibility by default.

Jared
messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 5:14PM
Subject: Re: New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
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Thank you Jared

Great that you added regions to this survey (or I do not remember them
from last time).
I have forwarded your announcements to my colleagues in Europe and the
European Blind Union technology mailing list.
I will forward elsewhere if it seems appropriate to do so.
If possible, would you please consider showing breakdown of sceen
reader usage by continent?
Thanks
-Birkir


On 4/30/12, Lucia Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi:
> I am using jaws.
> I knew you would not have done it wrong. I am using jaws 13. And every time
> the type of question was a check box or
> A radio button I need to turn forms mode off. I would have stayed out of
> forms mode but I needed to be in it to make choices in the combo boxes.
> Strange at best.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf of Jared Smith
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 4:02 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Lucia Greco wrote:
>> I think you need to work on the survey a little more the radio buttons
>> and the check box questions did not read the question if I was in forms
> mode.
>
> Lucia-
>
> The survey uses proper labels and fielsets/legends, so I'm not sure what
> the
> issue would be.
>
> If you are using Window Eyes, it has never supported properly formatted
> fieldsets and legends by default. I think there may be a fieldset verbosity
> setting that you need to enable or customize. I recommend that you bring
> this up with GW Micro (I have brought this to their attention many times in
> the last several years) or use a screen reader that supports form
> accessibility by default.
>
> Jared
> > > messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> > > >

From: Jared Smith
Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 5:22PM
Subject: Re: New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
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On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson wrote:

> If possible, would you please consider showing breakdown of sceen
> reader usage by continent?

We certainly will be reporting any notable differences in data between
regions. We wish that we had collected location demographics on
previous surveys.

Thank you for spreading the word.

Jared

From: Jared Smith
Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 5:28PM
Subject: Re: New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
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On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Lucia Greco wrote:

> I knew you would not have done it wrong. I am using jaws 13. And every time
> the type of question was a   check box or
> A radio button I need to turn forms mode off.

I just tested again in JAWS 13 in both IE and Firefox and the fieldset
legend (the question) is read appropriately for all of the checkbox
and radio button questions. I can't find a setting that would turn
this off, but it seems to be some configuration on your system that is
causing this.

Jared

From: Lucia Greco
Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 5:33PM
Subject: Re: New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
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I will try on a better system from home. I think I may need to rebuild my
work system any way thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Jared Smith
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 4:28 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Lucia Greco wrote:

> I knew you would not have done it wrong. I am using jaws 13. And every
time
> the type of question was a   check box or
> A radio button I need to turn forms mode off.

I just tested again in JAWS 13 in both IE and Firefox and the fieldset
legend (the question) is read appropriately for all of the checkbox
and radio button questions. I can't find a setting that would turn
this off, but it seems to be some configuration on your system that is
causing this.

Jared

From: David Farough
Date: Tue, May 01 2012 9:19AM
Subject: Re: New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
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From: David Farough
Date: Tue, May 01 2012 9:45AM
Subject: Re: New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
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From: Lucia Greco
Date: Tue, May 01 2012 11:01AM
Subject: Re: New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
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From: Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E]
Date: Tue, May 01 2012 1:33PM
Subject: Re: New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
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Hi, Jared, will WebAIM be conducting a speech recognition software user survey anytime (soon)?

Thanks!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jared Smith [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:54 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey

The fourth WebAIM screen reader user survey is now available at http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey4/. The survey results provide invaluable data for web developers, disability advocates, and standards bodies. Please take the survey and help spread the word.

Jared Smith
WebAIM.org

From: Jared Smith
Date: Wed, May 02 2012 8:53AM
Subject: Re: New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
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On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E] wrote:
> Hi, Jared, will WebAIM be conducting a speech recognition software user survey anytime (soon)?

We would like to do a survey or surveys for other types of assistive
technologies. We're very open to suggestions and questions for these
types of surveys or for future screen reader surveys.

Jared

From: Nelson-Brooks, Carolyn
Date: Wed, May 02 2012 9:49AM
Subject: Re: New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
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Hi Jared,

Although I follow this forum daily, I don't always post... but, I wanted to write in and say that I took the survey and didn't have any problems with it. I am a Jaws tester for Social Security; and I'm always willing to test software using Jaws for other companies.

-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Jared Smith
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:53 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E] wrote:
> Hi, Jared, will WebAIM be conducting a speech recognition software user survey anytime (soon)?

We would like to do a survey or surveys for other types of assistive
technologies. We're very open to suggestions and questions for these
types of surveys or for future screen reader surveys.

Jared