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From: Angela French
Date: Mon, Sep 21 2015 1:55PM
Subject: correct or incorrect use of colgroup
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I would appreciate if someone could take a look and tell me if the table found here<http://dev.sbctc.edu/colleges-staff/policies-rules/wac-rules.aspx>; is accessible. In particular, I am trying to determine if the use of colgroup is appropriate for the Current Activity header which has the three other table headers in the columns underneath it. I'm trying to figure out how to make our CMS support making accessible tables for any tables that more complex than simple ones.

Thank you

Angela French
Internet Specialist
Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
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From: Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
Date: Mon, Sep 21 2015 2:02PM
Subject: Re: correct or incorrect use of colgroup
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The code looks correct and it worked well using JAWS 16. I suggest adding borders to the header cells to make the visual layout more understandable. It is unclear visually that current activity is the header for three columns of information.

Mike Moore
Accessibility Coordinator
Texas Health and Human Services Commission
Civil Rights Office
(512) 438-3431 (Office)

From: Angela French
Date: Mon, Sep 21 2015 2:02PM
Subject: Re: correct or incorrect use of colgroup
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I forgot to mention that this page throws this accessibility error: Data table with more than one row/column of headers does not use id and headers attributes to identify cells.. Our CMS users though have no way to add in ID attributes.

From: Angela French
Date: Mon, Sep 21 2015 2:03PM
Subject: Re: correct or incorrect use of colgroup
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It's on my to-do list.

From: Angela French
Date: Mon, Sep 21 2015 2:07PM
Subject: Re: correct or incorrect use of colgroup
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In addition to scope="colgroup", the WAI tutorials show the user of colgroup like this:

<col>
<colgroup span="2"></colgroup>
<colgroup span="2"></colgroup>

And we don't have any way to do that with the CMS

http://www.w3.org/WAI/tutorials/tables/irregular/

From: Cliff Tyllick
Date: Wed, Sep 23 2015 9:50AM
Subject: Re: correct or incorrect use of colgroup
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Angela, it seems to me that you've identified a couple of significant issues to file with the CMS development team.

One is the inability to set ID attributes for columns and rows, and the other is the inability to add the colgroup attribute when needed.

Even if it's an open source CMS—and perhaps especially if it's an open source CMS—you might be pleasantly surprised with the turnaround you get.

Cliff Tyllick
Texas Department of Assistive and Rehabilitative Services
Austin, Texas

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> On Sep 21, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Angela French < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> In addition to scope="colgroup", the WAI tutorials show the user of colgroup like this:
>
> <col>
> <colgroup span="2"></colgroup>
> <colgroup span="2"></colgroup>
>
> And we don't have any way to do that with the CMS
>
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/tutorials/tables/irregular/
>
>

From: Kroon, Kurtis
Date: Wed, Sep 23 2015 12:11PM
Subject: Re: correct or incorrect use of colgroup
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I was not able to get JAWS or NVDA (in Firefox or Internet Explorer) to announce the table headers consistently on the W3C tutorial linked below.

Thank you!
                          
Kurtis Kroon
CA:GO:FTB:ASD:CSB:WSS:WUXU:AssocISA
916-845-5603

PS: I'm probably just doing it wrong.