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From: Sean Murphy
Date: Sat, Sep 26 2015 2:10PM
Subject: tools for analysing web pages.
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Hello All,

I am on the hunt for tools and tips for someone who is blind in performing accessibility review compliance on web pages. The tools I am already aware of are:

- Firebug
- Accessibility viewer
- Tenon
- Web Accessibility toolbar
Soate
tools

The tools above seem to be only for Windows. Is there any other tools available for the Mac??

also, has any one used Soate with Jaws for Windows and how have you found the accessibility aspects of this tool?

any tips on methods using the above tools with the Mac or Jaws for Window are welcomed. As there is a lot of information on the standard's. But info is lacking on how someone who cannot see the screen can evaluate pages. Other then reading the source from top to bottom.

Sean

From: Léonie Watson
Date: Sun, Sep 27 2015 5:08AM
Subject: Re: tools for analysing web pages.
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> From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
> Sent: 26 September 2015 21:11
> I am on the hunt for tools and tips for someone who is blind in performing
> accessibility review compliance on web pages. The tools I am already aware
> of are:
>
> - Firebug
> - Accessibility viewer
> - Tenon
> - Web Accessibility toolbar
> Soate
> tools
>
> The tools above seem to be only for Windows. Is there any other tools
> available for the Mac??

Tenon is platform agnostic. You can use it via the web interface [1], or by hooking into the Tenon API [2].

Firebug can be plugged into Firefox on Windows, OSX and Linux [3]. I haven't used it on OSX though, so can't vouch for whether it's usable with VO or not.

Accessibility Inspector is similar to aViewer, but it runs on OSX/iOS. It comes with Xcode which is a free download from the app store [4].

Léonie.
[1] http://tenon.io/
[2] http://www.tenon.io/documentation/overview.php
[3] http://getfirebug.com/downloads
[4] https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXTestingApps.html

--
Senior accessibility engineer @PacielloGroup @LeonieWatson

From: Dylan Barrell
Date: Sun, Sep 27 2015 12:41PM
Subject: Re: tools for analysing web pages.
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aXe is a small JavaScript library that runs everywhere and also has
extensions for Firefox and Chrome

https://github.com/dequelabs/axe-core/blob/master/README.md
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/axe-devtools/
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/axe/lhdoppojpmngadmnindnejefpokejbdd

--Dylan

On Sep 27, 2015, at 7:08 AM, Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

>> From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
>> Sent: 26 September 2015 21:11
>> I am on the hunt for tools and tips for someone who is blind in performing
>> accessibility review compliance on web pages. The tools I am already aware
>> of are:
>>
>> - Firebug
>> - Accessibility viewer
>> - Tenon
>> - Web Accessibility toolbar
>> Soate
>> tools
>>
>> The tools above seem to be only for Windows. Is there any other tools
>> available for the Mac??
>
> Tenon is platform agnostic. You can use it via the web interface [1], or by hooking into the Tenon API [2].
>
> Firebug can be plugged into Firefox on Windows, OSX and Linux [3]. I haven't used it on OSX though, so can't vouch for whether it's usable with VO or not.
>
> Accessibility Inspector is similar to aViewer, but it runs on OSX/iOS. It comes with Xcode which is a free download from the app store [4].
>
> Léonie.
> [1] http://tenon.io/
> [2] http://www.tenon.io/documentation/overview.php
> [3] http://getfirebug.com/downloads
> [4] https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXTestingApps.html
>
> --
> Senior accessibility engineer @PacielloGroup @LeonieWatson
>
>
>
>

From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Sun, Sep 27 2015 1:13PM
Subject: Re: tools for analysing web pages.
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I can help walk you through using AXe and FireEyes from Deque with a
screen reader, as well as how to use Firebug effectively with a screen
reader.
In fact we are working on an online resource where we plan to collect
all this knowledge. The official announcement of that effort will be
posted to this list soon, once we have some CSUN feedback and have
some basics going.
Cheers

On 9/27/15, Dylan Barrell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> aXe is a small JavaScript library that runs everywhere and also has
> extensions for Firefox and Chrome
>
> https://github.com/dequelabs/axe-core/blob/master/README.md
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/axe-devtools/
> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/axe/lhdoppojpmngadmnindnejefpokejbdd
>
> --Dylan
>
> On Sep 27, 2015, at 7:08 AM, Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
>>> From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
>>> Sent: 26 September 2015 21:11
>>> I am on the hunt for tools and tips for someone who is blind in
>>> performing
>>> accessibility review compliance on web pages. The tools I am already
>>> aware
>>> of are:
>>>
>>> - Firebug
>>> - Accessibility viewer
>>> - Tenon
>>> - Web Accessibility toolbar
>>> Soate
>>> tools
>>>
>>> The tools above seem to be only for Windows. Is there any other tools
>>> available for the Mac??
>>
>> Tenon is platform agnostic. You can use it via the web interface [1], or
>> by hooking into the Tenon API [2].
>>
>> Firebug can be plugged into Firefox on Windows, OSX and Linux [3]. I
>> haven't used it on OSX though, so can't vouch for whether it's usable with
>> VO or not.
>>
>> Accessibility Inspector is similar to aViewer, but it runs on OSX/iOS. It
>> comes with Xcode which is a free download from the app store [4].
>>
>> Léonie.
>> [1] http://tenon.io/
>> [2] http://www.tenon.io/documentation/overview.php
>> [3] http://getfirebug.com/downloads
>> [4]
>> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXTestingApps.html
>>
>> --
>> Senior accessibility engineer @PacielloGroup @LeonieWatson
>>
>>
>>
>>
> > > > >

--
Work hard. Have fun. Make history.

From: Sean Murphy
Date: Sun, Sep 27 2015 1:30PM
Subject: Re: tools for analysing web pages.
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Thanks everyone. I will check out the new resources and the suggestions.

It appears no one on this list is using Soate testing suite. Since I am interested in finding out if anyone has used it with Jaws.

Sean
> On 28 Sep 2015, at 5:13 am, Birkir R. Gunnarsson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> I can help walk you through using AXe and FireEyes from Deque with a
> screen reader, as well as how to use Firebug effectively with a screen
> reader.
> In fact we are working on an online resource where we plan to collect
> all this knowledge. The official announcement of that effort will be
> posted to this list soon, once we have some CSUN feedback and have
> some basics going.
> Cheers
>
>
>
>
> On 9/27/15, Dylan Barrell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> aXe is a small JavaScript library that runs everywhere and also has
>> extensions for Firefox and Chrome
>>
>> https://github.com/dequelabs/axe-core/blob/master/README.md
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/axe-devtools/
>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/axe/lhdoppojpmngadmnindnejefpokejbdd
>>
>> --Dylan
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2015, at 7:08 AM, Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
>>>> Sent: 26 September 2015 21:11
>>>> I am on the hunt for tools and tips for someone who is blind in
>>>> performing
>>>> accessibility review compliance on web pages. The tools I am already
>>>> aware
>>>> of are:
>>>>
>>>> - Firebug
>>>> - Accessibility viewer
>>>> - Tenon
>>>> - Web Accessibility toolbar
>>>> Soate
>>>> tools
>>>>
>>>> The tools above seem to be only for Windows. Is there any other tools
>>>> available for the Mac??
>>>
>>> Tenon is platform agnostic. You can use it via the web interface [1], or
>>> by hooking into the Tenon API [2].
>>>
>>> Firebug can be plugged into Firefox on Windows, OSX and Linux [3]. I
>>> haven't used it on OSX though, so can't vouch for whether it's usable with
>>> VO or not.
>>>
>>> Accessibility Inspector is similar to aViewer, but it runs on OSX/iOS. It
>>> comes with Xcode which is a free download from the app store [4].
>>>
>>> Léonie.
>>> [1] http://tenon.io/
>>> [2] http://www.tenon.io/documentation/overview.php
>>> [3] http://getfirebug.com/downloads
>>> [4]
>>> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXTestingApps.html
>>>
>>> --
>>> Senior accessibility engineer @PacielloGroup @LeonieWatson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> >> >> >> >>
>
>
> --
> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> > > >

From: Joseph Sherman
Date: Sun, Sep 27 2015 2:15PM
Subject: Re: tools for analysing web pages.
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Neither I nor Google appears to have heard of Soate testing suite. Is there an alternative spelling?

Joseph
Sent from phone
On Sep 27, 2015 3:31 PM, Sean Murphy < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
Thanks everyone. I will check out the new resources and the suggestions.

It appears no one on this list is using Soate testing suite. Since I am interested in finding out if anyone has used it with Jaws.

Sean
> On 28 Sep 2015, at 5:13 am, Birkir R. Gunnarsson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> I can help walk you through using AXe and FireEyes from Deque with a
> screen reader, as well as how to use Firebug effectively with a screen
> reader.
> In fact we are working on an online resource where we plan to collect
> all this knowledge. The official announcement of that effort will be
> posted to this list soon, once we have some CSUN feedback and have
> some basics going.
> Cheers
>
>
>
>
> On 9/27/15, Dylan Barrell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> aXe is a small JavaScript library that runs everywhere and also has
>> extensions for Firefox and Chrome
>>
>> https://github.com/dequelabs/axe-core/blob/master/README.md
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/axe-devtools/
>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/axe/lhdoppojpmngadmnindnejefpokejbdd
>>
>> --Dylan
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2015, at 7:08 AM, Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
>>>> Sent: 26 September 2015 21:11
>>>> I am on the hunt for tools and tips for someone who is blind in
>>>> performing
>>>> accessibility review compliance on web pages. The tools I am already
>>>> aware
>>>> of are:
>>>>
>>>> - Firebug
>>>> - Accessibility viewer
>>>> - Tenon
>>>> - Web Accessibility toolbar
>>>> Soate
>>>> tools
>>>>
>>>> The tools above seem to be only for Windows. Is there any other tools
>>>> available for the Mac??
>>>
>>> Tenon is platform agnostic. You can use it via the web interface [1], or
>>> by hooking into the Tenon API [2].
>>>
>>> Firebug can be plugged into Firefox on Windows, OSX and Linux [3]. I
>>> haven't used it on OSX though, so can't vouch for whether it's usable with
>>> VO or not.
>>>
>>> Accessibility Inspector is similar to aViewer, but it runs on OSX/iOS. It
>>> comes with Xcode which is a free download from the app store [4].
>>>
>>> Léonie.
>>> [1] http://tenon.io/
>>> [2] http://www.tenon.io/documentation/overview.php
>>> [3] http://getfirebug.com/downloads
>>> [4]
>>> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXTestingApps.html
>>>
>>> --
>>> Senior accessibility engineer @PacielloGroup @LeonieWatson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> >> >> >> >>
>
>
> --
> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> > > >

From: Joseph Sherman
Date: Sun, Sep 27 2015 2:18PM
Subject: Re: tools for analysing web pages.
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Has anyone else seen this critical review of testing tools from Norway earlier this year?

http://iktforalle.no/accessibility-checker-evaluation/objective_evaluation.html

http://iktforalle.no/accessibility-checker-evaluation/objective_evaluation.html

Joseph
Sent from phone

From: Sean Murphy
Date: Sun, Sep 27 2015 3:42PM
Subject: Re: tools for analysing web pages.
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Hi,

parasoft soatest 9.0 is the full name.
https://www.parasoft.com/

They support WC3 2.0 and 508 testing. It is an automation tool and does more then Web testing.

Sean

> On 28 Sep 2015, at 6:15 am, Joseph Sherman < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Neither I nor Google appears to have heard of Soate testing suite. Is there an alternative spelling?
>
> Joseph
> Sent from phone
> On Sep 27, 2015 3:31 PM, Sean Murphy < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Thanks everyone. I will check out the new resources and the suggestions.
>
> It appears no one on this list is using Soate testing suite. Since I am interested in finding out if anyone has used it with Jaws.
>
> Sean
>> On 28 Sep 2015, at 5:13 am, Birkir R. Gunnarsson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>
>> I can help walk you through using AXe and FireEyes from Deque with a
>> screen reader, as well as how to use Firebug effectively with a screen
>> reader.
>> In fact we are working on an online resource where we plan to collect
>> all this knowledge. The official announcement of that effort will be
>> posted to this list soon, once we have some CSUN feedback and have
>> some basics going.
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/27/15, Dylan Barrell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>> aXe is a small JavaScript library that runs everywhere and also has
>>> extensions for Firefox and Chrome
>>>
>>> https://github.com/dequelabs/axe-core/blob/master/README.md
>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/axe-devtools/
>>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/axe/lhdoppojpmngadmnindnejefpokejbdd
>>>
>>> --Dylan
>>>
>>> On Sep 27, 2015, at 7:08 AM, Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
>>>>> Sent: 26 September 2015 21:11
>>>>> I am on the hunt for tools and tips for someone who is blind in
>>>>> performing
>>>>> accessibility review compliance on web pages. The tools I am already
>>>>> aware
>>>>> of are:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Firebug
>>>>> - Accessibility viewer
>>>>> - Tenon
>>>>> - Web Accessibility toolbar
>>>>> Soate
>>>>> tools
>>>>>
>>>>> The tools above seem to be only for Windows. Is there any other tools
>>>>> available for the Mac??
>>>>
>>>> Tenon is platform agnostic. You can use it via the web interface [1], or
>>>> by hooking into the Tenon API [2].
>>>>
>>>> Firebug can be plugged into Firefox on Windows, OSX and Linux [3]. I
>>>> haven't used it on OSX though, so can't vouch for whether it's usable with
>>>> VO or not.
>>>>
>>>> Accessibility Inspector is similar to aViewer, but it runs on OSX/iOS. It
>>>> comes with Xcode which is a free download from the app store [4].
>>>>
>>>> Léonie.
>>>> [1] http://tenon.io/
>>>> [2] http://www.tenon.io/documentation/overview.php
>>>> [3] http://getfirebug.com/downloads
>>>> [4]
>>>> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXTestingApps.html
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Senior accessibility engineer @PacielloGroup @LeonieWatson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >

From: Lucy Greco
Date: Sun, Sep 27 2015 4:59PM
Subject: Re: tools for analysing web pages.
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thanks for sending this report it was exalent information thanks

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Joseph Sherman < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Has anyone else seen this critical review of testing tools from Norway
> earlier this year?
>
>
> http://iktforalle.no/accessibility-checker-evaluation/objective_evaluation.html
>
>
> http://iktforalle.no/accessibility-checker-evaluation/objective_evaluation.html
>
> Joseph
> Sent from phone
> > > > >

--
Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces

From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Sun, Sep 27 2015 5:21PM
Subject: Re: tools for analysing web pages.
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The report is certainly interesting, but there are definitely inaccuracies.
AXe and Tenon are not included in the report (which is understandable
if the comparison is more than a few months old), and the information
regarding FireEyes is not accurate.
I have a lot of comments about other assumptions and statements in the
report itself, but this is not the time or place to discuss those
comments.

On 9/27/15, Lucy Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> thanks for sending this report it was exalent information thanks
>
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Joseph Sherman < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone else seen this critical review of testing tools from Norway
>> earlier this year?
>>
>>
>> http://iktforalle.no/accessibility-checker-evaluation/objective_evaluation.html
>>
>>
>> http://iktforalle.no/accessibility-checker-evaluation/objective_evaluation.html
>>
>> Joseph
>> Sent from phone
>> >> >> >> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Lucia Greco
> Web Accessibility Evangelist
> IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
> University of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
> > > > >

--
Work hard. Have fun. Make history.