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From: Angela French
Date: Thu, Oct 01 2015 11:11AM
Subject: Differently labeled links on same page all directing to same page
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Hello,
If my memory serves me correctly, it is/used to be (?) a no-no to have differently labeled links on a page all going to the same page. I'm trying to find reference to that but have come up empty. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
Angela French
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Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
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From: Patrick H. Lauke
Date: Thu, Oct 01 2015 11:13AM
Subject: Re: Differently labeled links on same page all directing to same page
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The opposite, usually - links with same text pointing to different pages (e.g. lots of different "more" etc links)
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Patrick H. Lauke
> On 1 Oct 2015, at 18:11, Angela French < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hello,
> If my memory serves me correctly, it is/used to be (?) a no-no to have differently labeled links on a page all going to the same page. I'm trying to find reference to that but have come up empty. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
>
>
> Angela French
> Internet Specialist
> Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
> 360-704-4316
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> www.checkoutacollege.com<;http://www.checkoutacollege.com/>;
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From: Angela French
Date: Thu, Oct 01 2015 11:14AM
Subject: Re: Differently labeled links on same page all directingto same page
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Ok, thanks. That makes more sense.
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Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 10:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Differently labeled links on same page all directing to same page
The opposite, usually - links with same text pointing to different pages (e.g. lots of different "more" etc links)
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Patrick H. Lauke
> On 1 Oct 2015, at 18:11, Angela French < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hello,
> If my memory serves me correctly, it is/used to be (?) a no-no to have differently labeled links on a page all going to the same page. I'm trying to find reference to that but have come up empty. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
>
>
> Angela French
> Internet Specialist
> Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
> 360-704-4316
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> www.checkoutacollege.com<;http://www.checkoutacollege.com/>;
> www.sbctc.edu<;http://www.sbctc.edu/>;
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> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
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From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Thu, Oct 01 2015 11:28AM
Subject: Re: Differently labeled links on same page all directing tosame page
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à If my memory serves me correctly, it is/used to be (?) a no-no to have differently labeled links on a page all going to the same page. I'm trying to find reference to that but have come up empty. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
Angela, currently the requirement would only be that they be consistent across pages:
SC 3.2.4<http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/consistent-behavior-consistent-functionality.html>;. Some language in the understanding document indicates consistency within a page â but it indicates that identical names for adjacent links is only a best practice.
Jonathan
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Angela French
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 1:11 PM
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Subject: [WebAIM] Differently labeled links on same page all directing to same page
Hello,
If my memory serves me correctly, it is/used to be (?) a no-no to have differently labeled links on a page all going to the same page. I'm trying to find reference to that but have come up empty. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
Angela French
Internet Specialist
Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
360-704-4316
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From: Chagnon | PubCom.com
Date: Thu, Oct 01 2015 12:28PM
Subject: Re: Differently labeled links on same page all directingtosame page
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Actually, multiple links to the same page/content is called "multiple gateways" in PR parlance, and is considered a "good thing" because you can grab the attention of more people through multiple gateways. I can't imagine how this would negatively affect people who use AT.
But the same link (or wording) going to different destinations would not be good and would indeed be detrimental for AT users. Confuse the heck out of them. And non-AT users, too.
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Differently labeled links on same page all directing to same page
à If my memory serves me correctly, it is/used to be (?) a no-no to have differently labeled links on a page all going to the same page. I'm trying to find reference to that but have come up empty. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
Angela, currently the requirement would only be that they be consistent across pages:
SC 3.2.4<http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/consistent-behavior-consistent-functionality.html>;. Some language in the understanding document indicates consistency within a page â but it indicates that identical names for adjacent links is only a best practice.
Jonathan
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Phone 703.637.8957
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Angela French
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 1:11 PM
To: WebAim Forum ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )
Subject: [WebAIM] Differently labeled links on same page all directing to same page
Hello,
If my memory serves me correctly, it is/used to be (?) a no-no to have differently labeled links on a page all going to the same page. I'm trying to find reference to that but have come up empty. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
Angela French
Internet Specialist
Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
360-704-4316
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From: Olaf Drümmer
Date: Thu, Oct 01 2015 1:00PM
Subject: Re: Differently labeled links on same page all directingtosame page
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On 1 Oct 2015, at 20:28, Chagnon | PubCom.com < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> But the same link (or wording) going to different destinations would not be good and would indeed be detrimental for AT users. Confuse the heck out of them. And non-AT users, too.
I take the liberty to disagree. From my point of view this only goes back to uses as follows:
- jumping from link to link (without looking at its surrounding context)
- looking at a list of links (without each link's surrounding context)
In any other regard consistent labelling of links can actually be useful (and is considered beneficial from a software ergonomics point of view, as much as OK buttons should look the same each time, regardless of where you will end up after pushing them...), to AT users as much as non-AT users. A link labeled "read more" will simply make everybody at almost any cognitive capability level understand to expect more of what is presented right before the link.
Do not let certain techniques in widely used screen readers blind usâ¦
Olaf
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Sun, Oct 11 2015 6:05PM
Subject: Re: Differently labeled links on same page all directing to same page
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WCAG 2.4.4 defines the set of allowed context for identically labelled
links (same paragraph, same list item, table header for link text if
link is in table).
or context provided explicitly by the other via accessible description
(aria-describedby or title attribute).
The "read more' link situation would work if the "read more" link is
in same paragraph as its descriptive text.
But that is, I suspect, a topic for a whole other discussion.
On 10/1/15, Olaf Drümmer < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> On 1 Oct 2015, at 20:28, Chagnon | PubCom.com < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> But the same link (or wording) going to different destinations would not
>> be good and would indeed be detrimental for AT users. Confuse the heck out
>> of them. And non-AT users, too.
>
> I take the liberty to disagree. From my point of view this only goes back to
> uses as follows:
> - jumping from link to link (without looking at its surrounding context)
> - looking at a list of links (without each link's surrounding context)
>
> In any other regard consistent labelling of links can actually be useful
> (and is considered beneficial from a software ergonomics point of view, as
> much as OK buttons should look the same each time, regardless of where you
> will end up after pushing them...), to AT users as much as non-AT users. A
> link labeled "read more" will simply make everybody at almost any cognitive
> capability level understand to expect more of what is presented right before
> the link.
>
>
> Do not let certain techniques in widely used screen readers blind usâ¦
>
>
>
> Olaf
>
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