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From: Howard Kramer
Date: Fri, Feb 05 2016 6:25AM
Subject: Accessibility of Windows 10
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Hello All:

Except for this article by the NFB -
https://nfb.org/blog/vonb-blog/installers-beware-microsoft-drops-ball-accessibility-windows-10
-
I haven't seen much on accessibility problems of Windows 10. What is the
gist on accessibility of Windows 10. I do get the sense that folks using AT
are using it successfully.

Thanks in advance,
Howard

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From: Karlen Communications
Date: Fri, Feb 05 2016 7:20AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Windows 10
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I've been using it ever since I got the upgrade notification. I'm using it with JAWS 17 and haven't noticed much difference.

Cheers, Karen

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Subject: [WebAIM] Accessibility of Windows 10

Hello All:

Except for this article by the NFB -
https://nfb.org/blog/vonb-blog/installers-beware-microsoft-drops-ball-accessibility-windows-10
-
I haven't seen much on accessibility problems of Windows 10. What is the gist on accessibility of Windows 10. I do get the sense that folks using AT are using it successfully.

Thanks in advance,
Howard

--
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Conference Coordinator
Accessing Higher Ground
303-492-8672
cell: 720-351-8668

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From: Karlen Communications
Date: Fri, Feb 05 2016 7:21AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Windows 10
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Oh, I am using IE as my browser, not Edge. Edge seemed to be the sticking point on accessibility/not quite there yet. Other than that I haven't noticed much difference.

Oh, OK, there is a slightly different way of adding icons to the desktop, but the process is accessible.

Cheers, Karen

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Subject: [WebAIM] Accessibility of Windows 10

Hello All:

Except for this article by the NFB -
https://nfb.org/blog/vonb-blog/installers-beware-microsoft-drops-ball-accessibility-windows-10
-
I haven't seen much on accessibility problems of Windows 10. What is the gist on accessibility of Windows 10. I do get the sense that folks using AT are using it successfully.

Thanks in advance,
Howard

--
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Conference Coordinator
Accessing Higher Ground
303-492-8672
cell: 720-351-8668

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From: Teresa Haven
Date: Fri, Feb 05 2016 7:25AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Windows 10
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As a campus we aren't upgrading yet, but that has as much to do with the fact that we are "conservative" in our approach to rolling out new software and OS versions as much as anything -- the administration wants to make certain that we have stable systems for our students and employees to use, and that includes AT (since we distribute AT across all our student images). I tested an early version of Windows 10 on my AT test box and at that time it forced me to uninstall all my AT and then wouldn't let me reinstall any of it because it claimed it was all incompatible with the OS. That being said, I'm hearing from others, like Karen, that later versions play more nicely with at least the most recent releases of major AT. If, however, you have even slightly older versions and don't have the funds or other capacity to purchase the latest versions, I think you could still be out of luck. When I ran into compatibility problems with that earlier version of Win10 I simply wiped the machine and reinstalled the previous OS image rather than continuing to work with it, and I haven't had a chance to try again with a later release yet.

Hope this helps,

Teresa Haven, Ph.D.
Accessibility Analyst, Northern Arizona University



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I've been using it ever since I got the upgrade notification. I'm using it with JAWS 17 and haven't noticed much difference.

Cheers, Karen

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Sent: February 5, 2016 8:25 AM
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Subject: [WebAIM] Accessibility of Windows 10

Hello All:

Except for this article by the NFB -
https://nfb.org/blog/vonb-blog/installers-beware-microsoft-drops-ball-accessibility-windows-10
-
I haven't seen much on accessibility problems of Windows 10. What is the gist on accessibility of Windows 10. I do get the sense that folks using AT are using it successfully.

Thanks in advance,
Howard

--
Howard Kramer
Conference Coordinator
Accessing Higher Ground
303-492-8672
cell: 720-351-8668

Join us for the *Accessing Higher Ground Conference
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From: Andrews, David B (DEED)
Date: Fri, Feb 05 2016 9:05AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Windows 10
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From all the things I read, and the people I talk to, there are still a few rough edges with some assistive technology, but if you are using a recent release of a major AT product, things seem to be working pretty well. Some products are not yet able to use Edge, the new browser. Freedom Scientific has info on its web page about upgrading, and what you have to do for Windows 10.

Dave



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Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 7:25 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: [WebAIM] Accessibility of Windows 10

Hello All:

Except for this article by the NFB -
https://nfb.org/blog/vonb-blog/installers-beware-microsoft-drops-ball-accessibility-windows-10
-
I haven't seen much on accessibility problems of Windows 10. What is the gist on accessibility of Windows 10. I do get the sense that folks using AT are using it successfully.

Thanks in advance,
Howard

--
Howard Kramer
Conference Coordinator
Accessing Higher Ground
303-492-8672
cell: 720-351-8668

Join us for the *Accessing Higher Ground Conference
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From: Léonie Watson
Date: Fri, Feb 05 2016 11:40AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Windows 10
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Windows 10 works well with Jaws, NVDA and Narrator (the latter especially useful if you want to use Edge). Not sure about other Ats/accessibility needs though.

Léonie.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> On Behalf Of Karlen Communications
> Sent: 05 February 2016 14:20
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessibility of Windows 10
>
> I've been using it ever since I got the upgrade notification. I'm using it with
> JAWS 17 and haven't noticed much difference.
>
> Cheers, Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> On Behalf Of Howard Kramer
> Sent: February 5, 2016 8:25 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] Accessibility of Windows 10
>
> Hello All:
>
> Except for this article by the NFB -
> https://nfb.org/blog/vonb-blog/installers-beware-microsoft-drops-ball-
> accessibility-windows-10
> -
> I haven't seen much on accessibility problems of Windows 10. What is the gist
> on accessibility of Windows 10. I do get the sense that folks using AT are
> using it successfully.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Howard
>
> --
> Howard Kramer
> Conference Coordinator
> Accessing Higher Ground
> 303-492-8672
> cell: 720-351-8668
>
> Join us for the *Accessing Higher Ground Conference
> <http://accessinghigherground.org/>;* in Denver, Colorado, Nov 16-20, 2015.
> Complete Attendee, Exhibitor, Hotel, and Registration materials are available
> now.
>
>
>
> Complete program information and registration is open for our full line-up of
> webinars, *AHEADtoYOU!
> <http://ahead.org/learn/virtual-learning/webinars>;* And the *Technology
> Access Series <http://ahead.org/learn/virtual-
> learning/at_webinars_15_16>*.
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> convenience for the largest selection.
>
>
>
> Not yet a member of AHEAD? *We welcome you to join AHEAD now.
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> >
> > > http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>

From: Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E]
Date: Fri, Feb 05 2016 2:45PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Windows 10
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As a Dragon NaturallySpeaking user, whose office will be moving to Office 2016 and Office 365 sometime this year, I've also been interested and concerned about this move. We've already seen issues with Office 2010 and Dragon 12, Office 2013 and Dragon 12, Office 2013 and Dragon 13, as well as Office 2013 and Dragon 13. I've at least found the following, but not sure what else has been written or who's done any testing: http://nuance.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/17805/~/information-on-dragon-naturallyspeaking-13-and-windows-10

http://nuance-community.custhelp.com/posts/905182eaea this user forum is not very positive - experience seem to be all over the place - from DNS 13 working well with Windows 10 to it not working at all with Windows 10.

Gary M Morin


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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessibility of Windows 10

Windows 10 works well with Jaws, NVDA and Narrator (the latter especially useful if you want to use Edge). Not sure about other Ats/accessibility needs though.

Léonie.

> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Karlen Communications
> Sent: 05 February 2016 14:20
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessibility of Windows 10
>
> I've been using it ever since I got the upgrade notification. I'm
> using it with JAWS 17 and haven't noticed much difference.
>
> Cheers, Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> On Behalf Of Howard Kramer
> Sent: February 5, 2016 8:25 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] Accessibility of Windows 10
>
> Hello All:
>
> Except for this article by the NFB -
> https://nfb.org/blog/vonb-blog/installers-beware-microsoft-drops-ball-
> accessibility-windows-10
> -
> I haven't seen much on accessibility problems of Windows 10. What is
> the gist on accessibility of Windows 10. I do get the sense that folks
> using AT are using it successfully.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Howard
>
> --
> Howard Kramer
> Conference Coordinator
> Accessing Higher Ground
> 303-492-8672
> cell: 720-351-8668
>
> Join us for the *Accessing Higher Ground Conference
> <http://accessinghigherground.org/>;* in Denver, Colorado, Nov 16-20, 2015.
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> available now.
>
>
>
> Complete program information and registration is open for our full
> line-up of webinars, *AHEADtoYOU!
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> *Technology Access Series <http://ahead.org/learn/virtual-
> learning/at_webinars_15_16>*.
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>
>
>
> Not yet a member of AHEAD? *We welcome you to join AHEAD now.
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> >
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From: Howard Kramer
Date: Sat, Feb 06 2016 1:14PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Windows 10
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Thanks Gary and everyone else for your replies. This has been very helpful.

-Howard

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Morin, Gary (NIH/OD) [E] <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> As a Dragon NaturallySpeaking user, whose office will be moving to Office
> 2016 and Office 365 sometime this year, I've also been interested and
> concerned about this move. We've already seen issues with Office 2010 and
> Dragon 12, Office 2013 and Dragon 12, Office 2013 and Dragon 13, as well as
> Office 2013 and Dragon 13. I've at least found the following, but not sure
> what else has been written or who's done any testing:
> http://nuance.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/17805/~/information-on-dragon-naturallyspeaking-13-and-windows-10
>
> http://nuance-community.custhelp.com/posts/905182eaea this user forum is
> not very positive - experience seem to be all over the place - from DNS 13
> working well with Windows 10 to it not working at all with Windows 10.
>
> Gary M Morin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Léonie Watson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 1:40 PM
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessibility of Windows 10
>
> Windows 10 works well with Jaws, NVDA and Narrator (the latter especially
> useful if you want to use Edge). Not sure about other Ats/accessibility
> needs though.
>
> Léonie.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > On Behalf Of Karlen Communications
> > Sent: 05 February 2016 14:20
> > To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessibility of Windows 10
> >
> > I've been using it ever since I got the upgrade notification. I'm
> > using it with JAWS 17 and haven't noticed much difference.
> >
> > Cheers, Karen
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> > On Behalf Of Howard Kramer
> > Sent: February 5, 2016 8:25 AM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: [WebAIM] Accessibility of Windows 10
> >
> > Hello All:
> >
> > Except for this article by the NFB -
> > https://nfb.org/blog/vonb-blog/installers-beware-microsoft-drops-ball-
> > accessibility-windows-10
> > -
> > I haven't seen much on accessibility problems of Windows 10. What is
> > the gist on accessibility of Windows 10. I do get the sense that folks
> > using AT are using it successfully.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Howard
> >
> > --
> > Howard Kramer
> > Conference Coordinator
> > Accessing Higher Ground
> > 303-492-8672
> > cell: 720-351-8668
> >
> > Join us for the *Accessing Higher Ground Conference
> > <http://accessinghigherground.org/>;* in Denver, Colorado, Nov 16-20,
> 2015.
> > Complete Attendee, Exhibitor, Hotel, and Registration materials are
> > available now.
> >
> >
> >
> > Complete program information and registration is open for our full
> > line-up of webinars, *AHEADtoYOU!
> > <http://ahead.org/learn/virtual-learning/webinars>;* And the
> > *Technology Access Series <http://ahead.org/learn/virtual-
> > learning/at_webinars_15_16>*.
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> >
> >
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> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > >
>
> > > > >



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From: Charles Krugman
Date: Thu, Feb 11 2016 7:41PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Windows 10
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after dealing with the poor accessibility of the download and installation
process it is fine for the most part. I haven't had any real issues that are
specifically related to Windows 10. There are a few design issues that could
be improved but they aren't accessibility related.I was forced to use
Windows 8.1 for about a year after having to get a new computer and it is
definitely an improvement.
Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Kramer
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 5:25 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] Accessibility of Windows 10

Hello All:

Except for this article by the NFB -
https://nfb.org/blog/vonb-blog/installers-beware-microsoft-drops-ball-accessibility-windows-10
-
I haven't seen much on accessibility problems of Windows 10. What is the
gist on accessibility of Windows 10. I do get the sense that folks using AT
are using it successfully.

Thanks in advance,
Howard

--
Howard Kramer
Conference Coordinator
Accessing Higher Ground
303-492-8672
cell: 720-351-8668

Join us for the *Accessing Higher Ground Conference
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available now.



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of webinars, *AHEADtoYOU!
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Access Series <http://ahead.org/learn/virtual-learning/at_webinars_15_16>;*.
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