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From: karthik k
Date: Mon, Jan 02 2017 10:29PM
Subject: require best software for accessibility check
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Thanking you,
regards
Karthik K.
Phone no 9060989650
Hello experts, can you suggest any good accessibility testing software
which is also accessible?
From: Rakesh P
Date: Tue, Jan 03 2017 2:42AM
Subject: Re: require best software for accessibility check
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Hi Karthik,
Have a look at the software below by Deque Systems.
http://www.maxability.co.in/2015/06/axe-open-source-accessibility-engine-by-deque/
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:59 AM, karthik k < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:
> --
> Thanking you,
> regards
> Karthik K.
> Phone no 9060989650
>
>
> Hello experts, can you suggest any good accessibility testing software
> which is also accessible?
> > > > >
From: Mike Barlow
Date: Wed, Jan 04 2017 7:41AM
Subject: Re: require best software for accessibility check
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Along the same lines of this question can anyone recommend any
accessibility tools for testing NON Web based applications?
*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.835-7557
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 4:42 AM, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi Karthik,
> Have a look at the software below by Deque Systems.
> http://www.maxability.co.in/2015/06/axe-open-source-
> accessibility-engine-by-deque/
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:59 AM, karthik k < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > --
> > Thanking you,
> > regards
> > Karthik K.
> > Phone no 9060989650
> >
> >
> > Hello experts, can you suggest any good accessibility testing software
> > which is also accessible?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
From: Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
Date: Wed, Jan 04 2017 7:47AM
Subject: Re: require best software for accessibility check
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I frequently use a-viewer in Windows to look at what is being passed to the accessibility API.
Mike Moore
EIR (Electronic Information Resources) Accessibility Coordinator
Texas Health and Human Services Commission
Civil Rights Office
(512) 438-3431 (Office)
(512) 574-0091 (Cell)
Making electronic information and services accessible to people with disabilities is everyone's job. I am here to help.
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Mike Barlow
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 8:41 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] require best software for accessibility check
Along the same lines of this question can anyone recommend any accessibility tools for testing NON Web based applications?
*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.835-7557
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 4:42 AM, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi Karthik,
> Have a look at the software below by Deque Systems.
> http://www.maxability.co.in/2015/06/axe-open-source-
> accessibility-engine-by-deque/
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:59 AM, karthik k < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > --
> > Thanking you,
> > regards
> > Karthik K.
> > Phone no 9060989650
> >
> >
> > Hello experts, can you suggest any good accessibility testing
> > software which is also accessible?
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Wed, Jan 04 2017 7:57AM
Subject: Re: require best software for accessibility check
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> Along the same lines of this question can anyone recommend any accessibility tools for testing NON Web based applications?
I also use Microsoft's Object Inspector to inspect the accessibility properties. I have a tutorial on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v¾Q-wfJisBA
I also use AccEvent to look at the different accessibility events.
Jonathan
Jonathan Avila
Chief Accessibility Officer
SSB BART Group
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703.637.8957 (Office)
Vis Visit us online: Website | Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn | Blog
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 9:48 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] require best software for accessibility check
I frequently use a-viewer in Windows to look at what is being passed to the accessibility API.
Mike Moore
EIR (Electronic Information Resources) Accessibility Coordinator Texas Health and Human Services Commission Civil Rights Office
(512) 438-3431 (Office)
(512) 574-0091 (Cell)
Making electronic information and services accessible to people with disabilities is everyone's job. I am here to help.
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Mike Barlow
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 8:41 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] require best software for accessibility check
Along the same lines of this question can anyone recommend any accessibility tools for testing NON Web based applications?
*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.835-7557
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 4:42 AM, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi Karthik,
> Have a look at the software below by Deque Systems.
> http://www.maxability.co.in/2015/06/axe-open-source-
> accessibility-engine-by-deque/
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:59 AM, karthik k < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > --
> > Thanking you,
> > regards
> > Karthik K.
> > Phone no 9060989650
> >
> >
> > Hello experts, can you suggest any good accessibility testing
> > software which is also accessible?
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
From: Mike Barlow
Date: Wed, Jan 04 2017 8:41AM
Subject: Re: require best software for accessibility check
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Thanks Mike and Jonathan, anyone know of similar tools for the Mac/Linux
platforms?
*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.835-7557
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jonathan Avila < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:
> > Along the same lines of this question can anyone recommend any
> accessibility tools for testing NON Web based applications?
>
> I also use Microsoft's Object Inspector to inspect the accessibility
> properties. I have a tutorial on YouTube.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v¾Q-wfJisBA
>
> I also use AccEvent to look at the different accessibility events.
>
> Jonathan
>
> Jonathan Avila
> Chief Accessibility Officer
> SSB BART Group
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 703.637.8957 (Office)
> Vis Visit us online: Website | Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn | Blog
> See you at CSUN in March!
>
> The information contained in this transmission may be attorney privileged
> and/or confidential information intended for the use of the individual or
> entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended
> recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination,
> distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 9:48 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] require best software for accessibility check
>
> I frequently use a-viewer in Windows to look at what is being passed to
> the accessibility API.
>
> Mike Moore
> EIR (Electronic Information Resources) Accessibility Coordinator Texas
> Health and Human Services Commission Civil Rights Office
> (512) 438-3431 (Office)
> (512) 574-0091 (Cell)
>
> Making electronic information and services accessible to people with
> disabilities is everyone's job. I am here to help.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Mike Barlow
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 8:41 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] require best software for accessibility check
>
> Along the same lines of this question can anyone recommend any
> accessibility tools for testing NON Web based applications?
>
> *Mike Barlow*
> Web Application Developer
> Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>
> Lancaster, Pa 17601
> Office: 732.835-7557
> Cell: 732.682.8226
> e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 4:42 AM, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Karthik,
> > Have a look at the software below by Deque Systems.
> > http://www.maxability.co.in/2015/06/axe-open-source-
> > accessibility-engine-by-deque/
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:59 AM, karthik k < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > --
> > > Thanking you,
> > > regards
> > > Karthik K.
> > > Phone no 9060989650
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello experts, can you suggest any good accessibility testing
> > > software which is also accessible?
> > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > >
From: Jonathan Cohn
Date: Wed, Jan 04 2017 10:11AM
Subject: Re: require best software for accessibility check
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There is an accessibility audit / tester tool for Xcode. I have never tried
it you can find a video from the latest WWDC about this tool
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:42 AM Mike Barlow < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Thanks Mike and Jonathan, anyone know of similar tools for the Mac/Linux
> platforms?
>
> *Mike Barlow*
> Web Application Developer
> Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>
> Lancaster, Pa 17601
> Office: 732.835-7557 <(732)%20835-7557>
> Cell: 732.682.8226 <(732)%20682-8226>
> e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jonathan Avila < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> wrote:
>
> > > Along the same lines of this question can anyone recommend any
> > accessibility tools for testing NON Web based applications?
> >
> > I also use Microsoft's Object Inspector to inspect the accessibility
> > properties. I have a tutorial on YouTube.
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v¾Q-wfJisBA
> >
> > I also use AccEvent to look at the different accessibility events.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > Jonathan Avila
> > Chief Accessibility Officer
> > SSB BART Group
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > 703.637.8957 <(703)%20637-8957> (Office)
> > Vis Visit us online: Website | Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn | Blog
> > See you at CSUN in March!
> >
> > The information contained in this transmission may be attorney privileged
> > and/or confidential information intended for the use of the individual or
> > entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended
> > recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination,
> > distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 9:48 AM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] require best software for accessibility check
> >
> > I frequently use a-viewer in Windows to look at what is being passed to
> > the accessibility API.
> >
> > Mike Moore
> > EIR (Electronic Information Resources) Accessibility Coordinator Texas
> > Health and Human Services Commission Civil Rights Office
> > (512) 438-3431 (Office)
> > (512) 574-0091 (Cell)
> >
> > Making electronic information and services accessible to people with
> > disabilities is everyone's job. I am here to help.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of Mike Barlow
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 8:41 AM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] require best software for accessibility check
> >
> > Along the same lines of this question can anyone recommend any
> > accessibility tools for testing NON Web based applications?
> >
> > *Mike Barlow*
> > Web Application Developer
> > Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
> >
> > Lancaster, Pa 17601
> > Office: 732.835-7557 <(732)%20835-7557>
> > Cell: 732.682.8226 <(732)%20682-8226>
> > e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 4:42 AM, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Karthik,
> > > Have a look at the software below by Deque Systems.
> > > http://www.maxability.co.in/2015/06/axe-open-source-
> > > accessibility-engine-by-deque/
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:59 AM, karthik k < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanking you,
> > > > regards
> > > > Karthik K.
> > > > Phone no 9060989650
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello experts, can you suggest any good accessibility testing
> > > > software which is also accessible?
> > > > > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > >
> > > > > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
From: JP Jamous
Date: Wed, Jan 04 2017 11:21AM
Subject: Re: require best software for accessibility check
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Which viewer is that Mike?
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 8:48 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] require best software for accessibility check
I frequently use a-viewer in Windows to look at what is being passed to the accessibility API.
Mike Moore
EIR (Electronic Information Resources) Accessibility Coordinator Texas Health and Human Services Commission Civil Rights Office
(512) 438-3431 (Office)
(512) 574-0091 (Cell)
Making electronic information and services accessible to people with disabilities is everyone's job. I am here to help.
-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Mike Barlow
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 8:41 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] require best software for accessibility check
Along the same lines of this question can anyone recommend any accessibility tools for testing NON Web based applications?
*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.835-7557
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 4:42 AM, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi Karthik,
> Have a look at the software below by Deque Systems.
> http://www.maxability.co.in/2015/06/axe-open-source-
> accessibility-engine-by-deque/
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:59 AM, karthik k < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > --
> > Thanking you,
> > regards
> > Karthik K.
> > Phone no 9060989650
> >
> >
> > Hello experts, can you suggest any good accessibility testing
> > software which is also accessible?
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
From: Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
Date: Wed, Jan 04 2017 11:24AM
Subject: Re: require best software for accessibility check
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It is included in the accessibility toolbar for IE but I have found that after you launch it you can use it on stuff outside of the browser.
Mike Moore
EIR (Electronic Information Resources) Accessibility Coordinator
Texas Health and Human Services Commission
Civil Rights Office
(512) 438-3431 (Office)
(512) 574-0091 (Cell)
Making electronic information and services accessible to people with disabilities is everyone's job. I am here to help.
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of JP Jamous
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 12:21 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] require best software for accessibility check
Which viewer is that Mike?
-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 8:48 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] require best software for accessibility check
I frequently use a-viewer in Windows to look at what is being passed to the accessibility API.
Mike Moore
EIR (Electronic Information Resources) Accessibility Coordinator Texas Health and Human Services Commission Civil Rights Office
(512) 438-3431 (Office)
(512) 574-0091 (Cell)
Making electronic information and services accessible to people with disabilities is everyone's job. I am here to help.
-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Mike Barlow
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 8:41 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] require best software for accessibility check
Along the same lines of this question can anyone recommend any accessibility tools for testing NON Web based applications?
*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.835-7557
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 4:42 AM, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi Karthik,
> Have a look at the software below by Deque Systems.
> http://www.maxability.co.in/2015/06/axe-open-source-
> accessibility-engine-by-deque/
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:59 AM, karthik k < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > --
> > Thanking you,
> > regards
> > Karthik K.
> > Phone no 9060989650
> >
> >
> > Hello experts, can you suggest any good accessibility testing
> > software which is also accessible?
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
From: Rakesh P
Date: Thu, Jan 05 2017 10:32PM
Subject: Re: require best software for accessibility check
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I found this video on youtube, might be useful for someone. Steve Faulkner
"Using the aViewer accessibility object inspection tool"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te7ZKrNPLfQ
Thanks & Regards
Rakesh P
www.maxability.co.in
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC) <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> It is included in the accessibility toolbar for IE but I have found that
> after you launch it you can use it on stuff outside of the browser.
>
> Mike Moore
> EIR (Electronic Information Resources) Accessibility Coordinator
> Texas Health and Human Services Commission
> Civil Rights Office
> (512) 438-3431 (Office)
> (512) 574-0091 (Cell)
>
> Making electronic information and services accessible to people with
> disabilities is everyone's job. I am here to help.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of JP Jamous
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 12:21 PM
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] require best software for accessibility check
>
> Which viewer is that Mike?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC)
> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 8:48 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] require best software for accessibility check
>
> I frequently use a-viewer in Windows to look at what is being passed to
> the accessibility API.
>
> Mike Moore
> EIR (Electronic Information Resources) Accessibility Coordinator Texas
> Health and Human Services Commission Civil Rights Office
> (512) 438-3431 (Office)
> (512) 574-0091 (Cell)
>
> Making electronic information and services accessible to people with
> disabilities is everyone's job. I am here to help.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Mike Barlow
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 8:41 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] require best software for accessibility check
>
> Along the same lines of this question can anyone recommend any
> accessibility tools for testing NON Web based applications?
>
> *Mike Barlow*
> Web Application Developer
> Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>
> Lancaster, Pa 17601
> Office: 732.835-7557
> Cell: 732.682.8226
> e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 4:42 AM, Rakesh P < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Karthik,
> > Have a look at the software below by Deque Systems.
> > http://www.maxability.co.in/2015/06/axe-open-source-
> > accessibility-engine-by-deque/
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:59 AM, karthik k < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > --
> > > Thanking you,
> > > regards
> > > Karthik K.
> > > Phone no 9060989650
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello experts, can you suggest any good accessibility testing
> > > software which is also accessible?
> > > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > >
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > >