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From: pratik roy
Date: Sat, Mar 17 2018 8:52AM
Subject: aria-describedat In or Not In
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Hi Everyone,

aria-describeat can be a very useful contribution to ARIA family as it is
meant to be the replacement for longdesc in HTML 5. But it is quite some
time now and no User Agent is supporting (plz let me know if there is any)
this attribute. Please share if anyone has any idea about when we can start
using this without worrying about compatibility.

Thanks & Regards
PRATIK ROY

From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Sat, Mar 17 2018 9:23AM
Subject: Re: aria-describedat In or Not In
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Hi Patrik, aria-describedat was made obsolete by aria-details before ARIA 1.1 became a recommendation

Aria-details does have some support limitations that I have documented.
https://labs.levelaccess.com/index.php/ARIA_details_property

Jonathan

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Subject: [WebAIM] aria-describedat In or Not In

Hi Everyone,

aria-describeat can be a very useful contribution to ARIA family as it is meant to be the replacement for longdesc in HTML 5. But it is quite some time now and no User Agent is supporting (plz let me know if there is any) this attribute. Please share if anyone has any idea about when we can start using this without worrying about compatibility.

Thanks & Regards
PRATIK ROY

From: Jonathan Cohn
Date: Sat, Mar 17 2018 9:24AM
Subject: Re: aria-describedat In or Not In
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To the best of my knowledge described by is used as the "Help" information in Safari browsers with VoiceOver running, and NVDA / JAWS will read it in all browsers after the name type state information.

In verbose mode on JAWS, there is also a help tag that says hit some key sequence to hear a description. I have not always encountered this help text but I have on at least one occasion.

Have you encountered a situation where it did not work?

Thanks,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 17, 2018, at 10:52 AM, pratik roy < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> aria-describeat can be a very useful contribution to ARIA family as it is
> meant to be the replacement for longdesc in HTML 5. But it is quite some
> time now and no User Agent is supporting (plz let me know if there is any)
> this attribute. Please share if anyone has any idea about when we can start
> using this without worrying about compatibility.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> PRATIK ROY
> > > >

From: Jonathan Cohn
Date: Sat, Mar 17 2018 9:27AM
Subject: Re: aria-describedat In or Not In
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Whoops, I read the attribute wrong. I guess it is good it got obsoleted without adjustments to Speech dictionaries the two attributes sound the same at high speed rates.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 17, 2018, at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Avila < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hi Patrik, aria-describedat was made obsolete by aria-details before ARIA 1.1 became a recommendation
>
> Aria-details does have some support limitations that I have documented.
> https://labs.levelaccess.com/index.php/ARIA_details_property
>
> Jonathan
>
> Jonathan Avila
> Chief Accessibility Officer
> Level Access
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 703.637.8957 office
>
> Visit us online:
> Website | Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn | Blog
>
> See you at CSUN in March!
>
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> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of pratik roy
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 10:52 AM
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> Subject: [WebAIM] aria-describedat In or Not In
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> aria-describeat can be a very useful contribution to ARIA family as it is meant to be the replacement for longdesc in HTML 5. But it is quite some time now and no User Agent is supporting (plz let me know if there is any) this attribute. Please share if anyone has any idea about when we can start using this without worrying about compatibility.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> PRATIK ROY
> > > > > > >

From: pratik roy
Date: Mon, Mar 19 2018 6:54PM
Subject: Re: aria-describedat In or Not In
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Thanks for letting me know about aria-details. Hope to see better support
in near future.

Thanks & Regards
PRATIK ROY

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> Subject: [WebAIM] aria-describedat In or Not In
> Hi Everyone,
>
> aria-describeat can be a very useful contribution to ARIA family as it is
> meant to be the replacement for longdesc in HTML 5. But it is quite some
> time now and no User Agent is supporting (plz let me know if there is any)
> this attribute. Please share if anyone has any idea about when we can start
> using this without worrying about compatibility.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> PRATIK ROY
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] aria-describedat In or Not In
> Hi Patrik, aria-describedat was made obsolete by aria-details before ARIA
> 1.1 became a recommendation
>
> Aria-details does have some support limitations that I have documented.
> https://labs.levelaccess.com/index.php/ARIA_details_property
>
> Jonathan
>
> Jonathan Avila
> Chief Accessibility Officer
> Level Access
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
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> Visit us online:
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> See you at CSUN in March!
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> Subject: [WebAIM] aria-describedat In or Not In
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> aria-describeat can be a very useful contribution to ARIA family as it is
> meant to be the replacement for longdesc in HTML 5. But it is quite some
> time now and no User Agent is supporting (plz let me know if there is any)
> this attribute. Please share if anyone has any idea about when we can start
> using this without worrying about compatibility.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> PRATIK ROY
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> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 11:24:06 -0400
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] aria-describedat In or Not In
> To the best of my knowledge described by is used as the "Help" information
> in Safari browsers with VoiceOver running, and NVDA / JAWS will read it in
> all browsers after the name type state information.
>
> In verbose mode on JAWS, there is also a help tag that says hit some key
> sequence to hear a description. I have not always encountered this help
> text but I have on at least one occasion.
>
> Have you encountered a situation where it did not work?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
> > On Mar 17, 2018, at 10:52 AM, pratik roy < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > aria-describeat can be a very useful contribution to ARIA family as it is
> > meant to be the replacement for longdesc in HTML 5. But it is quite some
> > time now and no User Agent is supporting (plz let me know if there is
> any)
> > this attribute. Please share if anyone has any idea about when we can
> start
> > using this without worrying about compatibility.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > PRATIK ROY
> > > > > > > > >
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 11:27:05 -0400
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] aria-describedat In or Not In
> Whoops, I read the attribute wrong. I guess it is good it got obsoleted
> without adjustments to Speech dictionaries the two attributes sound the
> same at high speed rates.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
> > On Mar 17, 2018, at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Avila < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Patrik, aria-describedat was made obsolete by aria-details before
> ARIA 1.1 became a recommendation
> >
> > Aria-details does have some support limitations that I have documented.
> > https://labs.levelaccess.com/index.php/ARIA_details_property
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > Jonathan Avila
> > Chief Accessibility Officer
> > Level Access
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > 703.637.8957 office
> >
> > Visit us online:
> > Website | Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn | Blog
> >
> > See you at CSUN in March!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of
> pratik roy
> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 10:52 AM
> > To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > Subject: [WebAIM] aria-describedat In or Not In
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > aria-describeat can be a very useful contribution to ARIA family as it
> is meant to be the replacement for longdesc in HTML 5. But it is quite some
> time now and no User Agent is supporting (plz let me know if there is any)
> this attribute. Please share if anyone has any idea about when we can start
> using this without worrying about compatibility.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > PRATIK ROY
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