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Date: Tue, Jun 12 2018 11:44PM
Subject: Avada menu accessibility problem
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Hello,

Avada is a Wordpress theme, and its developers says their theme is 100%
WCAG compatibility. When I create a menu, screen readers does not work
well with it. JAWS and NVDA does not announce the menu item or its
position. Do you have any solution for that? Is there any accessible
menu plugin for Wordpress? I found "Accessible menu for Wordpress", but
it doesn't work with Avada theme.

Here is the example page: https://avada.theme-fusion.com/


Thanks for your help!

Regards,

Aron

From: Andrews, David B (DEED)
Date: Wed, Jun 13 2018 8:35AM
Subject: Re: Avada menu accessibility problem
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I looked with JAWS 2018, and it behaved differently depending on whether I was navigating with arrow keys, or tabbing. Tabbing opened up the pop-ups.

Dave



David Andrews | Chief Technology Officer
Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development
State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114
Direct: 651-539-2294
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Subject: [WebAIM] Avada menu accessibility problem

Hello,

Avada is a Wordpress theme, and its developers says their theme is 100% WCAG compatibility. When I create a menu, screen readers does not work well with it. JAWS and NVDA does not announce the menu item or its position. Do you have any solution for that? Is there any accessible menu plugin for Wordpress? I found "Accessible menu for Wordpress", but it doesn't work with Avada theme.

Here is the example page: https://avada.theme-fusion.com/


Thanks for your help!

Regards,

Aron

From: Laken Hafner
Date: Wed, Jun 13 2018 9:14AM
Subject: Re: Avada menu accessibility problem
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Are you talking about the menu on the front-end not working well with screen-readers, or the admin area menu builder?

The WordPress accessibility team has an open bug for improving the admin menu builder for screen-reader users, and unfortunately there are no plugins that I know of that fixes this. Bug report: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/40678

If you're talking about the front-end, looking at the example link, it appears that Avada adds all the aria that should be there. I'm able to navigate through the menu using ChromeVox at least.

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On Wed, Jun 13, 2018, at 1:44 AM, Ócsvári Áron wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Avada is a Wordpress theme, and its developers says their theme is 100%
> WCAG compatibility. When I create a menu, screen readers does not work
> well with it. JAWS and NVDA does not announce the menu item or its
> position. Do you have any solution for that? Is there any accessible
> menu plugin for Wordpress? I found "Accessible menu for Wordpress", but
> it doesn't work with Avada theme.
>
> Here is the example page: https://avada.theme-fusion.com/
>
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Regards,
>
> Aron
>
>
> > > >

From: Andrews, David B (DEED)
Date: Wed, Jun 13 2018 9:49AM
Subject: Re: Avada menu accessibility problem
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I was talking about the stuff on the front page of the URL that was sent.

Dave



David Andrews | Chief Technology Officer
Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development
State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114
Direct: 651-539-2294
Web | Twitter | Facebook




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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Avada menu accessibility problem

Are you talking about the menu on the front-end not working well with screen-readers, or the admin area menu builder?

The WordPress accessibility team has an open bug for improving the admin menu builder for screen-reader users, and unfortunately there are no plugins that I know of that fixes this. Bug report: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/40678

If you're talking about the front-end, looking at the example link, it appears that Avada adds all the aria that should be there. I'm able to navigate through the menu using ChromeVox at least.

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  Laken Hafner
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  https://laken.net/

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018, at 1:44 AM, Ócsvári Áron wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Avada is a Wordpress theme, and its developers says their theme is
> 100% WCAG compatibility. When I create a menu, screen readers does not
> work well with it. JAWS and NVDA does not announce the menu item or
> its position. Do you have any solution for that? Is there any
> accessible menu plugin for Wordpress? I found "Accessible menu for
> Wordpress", but it doesn't work with Avada theme.
>
> Here is the example page: https://avada.theme-fusion.com/
>
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Regards,
>
> Aron
>

From: JR Accessibility
Date: Wed, Jun 13 2018 1:27PM
Subject: Re: Avada menu accessibility problem
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Based on my understanding of a talk that Joe Dolson gave on Global
Accessibility Awareness Day 2018 (May 17), a theme can say pretty much
whatever they want about their theme's level of support for accessibility.
But there's no actual guarantee that the theme properly implements
accessibility regardless of what it claims. You have to do your own
research.



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> Subject: [WebAIM] Avada menu accessibility problem
> Hello,
>
> Avada is a Wordpress theme, and its developers says their theme is 100%
> WCAG compatibility. When I create a menu, screen readers does not work well
> with it. JAWS and NVDA does not announce the menu item or its position. Do
> you have any solution for that? Is there any accessible menu plugin for
> Wordpress? I found "Accessible menu for Wordpress", but it doesn't work
> with Avada theme.
>

From: Colleen Gratzer, Gratzer Graphics LLC
Date: Thu, Jun 14 2018 2:24PM
Subject: Re: Avada menu accessibility problem
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FWIW, I use the Astra theme, and the developers are very responsive
about accessibility concerns brought to their attention. (I've sent them
several suggestions.) I don't know if it's been officially approved for
accessibility in the WordPress repository, but I know it was under
review for that a few months ago.

I've used Astra for several sites (in addition to highly customizing it
with custom page templates and custom fields for the client to more
easily update it and to make sure that content they add is accessible).
I've had someone with a screen reader test sites we've built with Astra,
and it worked well.


Colleen Gratzer
Creative Director :: Visual Brand Expert :: Accessibility Consultant
Gratzer Graphics LLC
https://gratzergraphics.com

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