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From: Detlev Fischer
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2018 6:18AM
Subject: Firefox/NVDA: ENTER on button opens browser context menu
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Hi,

I have a problem when testing accessibility in Firefox that is driving
me to distraction - I hope someone has an answer.
My device: Windows 10 on recent touch-enabled hybrid laptop with
external montor.

The problem:
When I use Firefox (62.0) and turn on NVDA (2018.3, default settings),
native buttons that reacted on ENTER before turning on NVDA (e.g. open a
drop-down) stop working: I now get the browser context menu displayed
instead. Buttons work when I press ALT at the same time, but that should
not be necessary. My colleagues with different devices cannot reproduce
the problem in Firefox/NVDA.

This is what I have tried:

- Search Webaim mail archives and the web to find an answer
- In Firefox' about:config settings, set dom.event.contextmenu.enabled
to FALSE
- In the device settings > Human Interface Devices, deactivating HID
conformant touchscreen
- Turning Firefox Caret browsing (F7) on and off

Nothing seems to have an effect on the problem.
Has anyone got an idea what is happening here?

Best,
Detlev

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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2018 6:21AM
Subject: Re: Firefox/NVDA: ENTER on button opens browser context menu
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Have you checked the NVDA GitHub issues page? If not, definitely file
a new issue.
If you are in browse mode and press the enter key NVDA should send a
simulated event to the browser, it should be a click event. I wonder
if somehow it is sending the wrong event now or the event gets
translated to a rightclick instead of regular click.



On 9/19/18, Detlev Fischer < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a problem when testing accessibility in Firefox that is driving
> me to distraction - I hope someone has an answer.
> My device: Windows 10 on recent touch-enabled hybrid laptop with
> external montor.
>
> The problem:
> When I use Firefox (62.0) and turn on NVDA (2018.3, default settings),
> native buttons that reacted on ENTER before turning on NVDA (e.g. open a
> drop-down) stop working: I now get the browser context menu displayed
> instead. Buttons work when I press ALT at the same time, but that should
> not be necessary. My colleagues with different devices cannot reproduce
> the problem in Firefox/NVDA.
>
> This is what I have tried:
>
> - Search Webaim mail archives and the web to find an answer
> - In Firefox' about:config settings, set dom.event.contextmenu.enabled
> to FALSE
> - In the device settings > Human Interface Devices, deactivating HID
> conformant touchscreen
> - Turning Firefox Caret browsing (F7) on and off
>
> Nothing seems to have an effect on the problem.
> Has anyone got an idea what is happening here?
>
> Best,
> Detlev
>
> --
> Detlev Fischer
> Testkreis
> Werderstr. 34, 20144 Hamburg
>
> Mobil +49 (0)157 57 57 57 45
>
> http://www.testkreis.de
> Beratung, Tests und Schulungen für barrierefreie Websites
>
>
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From: Fischer, Johannes
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2018 7:59AM
Subject: Re: Firefox/NVDA: ENTER on button opens browser context menu
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Hi Detlev,

just an idea because it's not clear from your text: Did you go through the page by using Tab key or by arrow keys (browsing) when NVDA is on? By using the arrow keys a drop-down doesn't work for me as well (Firefox 62.0, NVDA 2018.1.1), even not with ALT + Enter. But by using the Tab key I can focus the drop-down and change the value with the arrow keys.

Best regards,
Johannes

Johannes Fischer
BIKOSAX - IT Accessibility Service in Saxony
Accessible Websites - Test, Consulting, Training
Online Library

Deutsche Zentralbücherei für Blinde (German Central Library for the Blind, DZB)
Gustav-Adolf-Straße 7, 04105 Leipzig, Germany
Tel.: +49(0)341 7113-162, Fax: +49(0)341 7113-125
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Von: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] Im Auftrag von Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. September 2018 14:22
An: WebAIM Discussion List
Betreff: Re: [WebAIM] Firefox/NVDA: ENTER on button opens browser context menu

Have you checked the NVDA GitHub issues page? If not, definitely file
a new issue.
If you are in browse mode and press the enter key NVDA should send a
simulated event to the browser, it should be a click event. I wonder
if somehow it is sending the wrong event now or the event gets
translated to a rightclick instead of regular click.



On 9/19/18, Detlev Fischer < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a problem when testing accessibility in Firefox that is driving
> me to distraction - I hope someone has an answer.
> My device: Windows 10 on recent touch-enabled hybrid laptop with
> external montor.
>
> The problem:
> When I use Firefox (62.0) and turn on NVDA (2018.3, default settings),
> native buttons that reacted on ENTER before turning on NVDA (e.g. open a
> drop-down) stop working: I now get the browser context menu displayed
> instead. Buttons work when I press ALT at the same time, but that should
> not be necessary. My colleagues with different devices cannot reproduce
> the problem in Firefox/NVDA.
>
> This is what I have tried:
>
> - Search Webaim mail archives and the web to find an answer
> - In Firefox' about:config settings, set dom.event.contextmenu.enabled
> to FALSE
> - In the device settings > Human Interface Devices, deactivating HID
> conformant touchscreen
> - Turning Firefox Caret browsing (F7) on and off
>
> Nothing seems to have an effect on the problem.
> Has anyone got an idea what is happening here?
>
> Best,
> Detlev
>
> --
> Detlev Fischer
> Testkreis
> Werderstr. 34, 20144 Hamburg
>
> Mobil +49 (0)157 57 57 57 45
>
> http://www.testkreis.de
> Beratung, Tests und Schulungen für barrierefreie Websites
>
>
> ---
> Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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> > > > >


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From: Mallory
Date: Sat, Sep 22 2018 3:10AM
Subject: Re: Firefox/NVDA: ENTER on button opens browser context menu
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Hoi Johannes,
If you are browsing to a button and NVDA isn't passing on your Enter event, and if you personally don't want to have to tab to it, I would think manually switching to the forms mode with NVDA+space would save you some extra keystrokes (maybe).

cheers,
_mallory

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Fischer, Johannes wrote:
> Hi Detlev,
>
> just an idea because it's not clear from your text: Did you go through
> the page by using Tab key or by arrow keys (browsing) when NVDA is on?
> By using the arrow keys a drop-down doesn't work for me as well (Firefox
> 62.0, NVDA 2018.1.1), even not with ALT + Enter. But by using the Tab
> key I can focus the drop-down and change the value with the arrow keys.
>
> Best regards,
> Johannes
>
> Johannes Fischer
> BIKOSAX - IT Accessibility Service in Saxony
> Accessible Websites - Test, Consulting, Training
> Online Library
>
> Deutsche Zentralbücherei für Blinde (German Central Library for the Blind, DZB)
> Gustav-Adolf-Straße 7, 04105 Leipzig, Germany
> Tel.: +49(0)341 7113-162, Fax: +49(0)341 7113-125
> E-Mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Internet: www.dzb.de
>
> Follow DZB: www.facebook.com/dzb.de | www.twitter.com/punktschrift | blog.dzb.de