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From: Ramakrishnan Subramanian
Date: Fri, Dec 21 2018 7:12AM
Subject: Talkback vs Voice assistant
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Dear members,
I would like to hear your opinion on using which screen reader for
accessibility testing in android platform. Particularly Samsung.
Samsung comes with default screen reader i.e. voice access. Other
devices have talkback as the default screen reader. While performing
accessibility testing in Samsung device, should we use talkback? Or
the default one i.e. voice access.
Thanks and regards
Ram
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From: joe@a11yeval.com
Date: Fri, Dec 21 2018 8:40AM
Subject: Re: Talkback vs Voice assistant
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Hi Ram,
The built -n screen reader on Samsung is TalkBack with some customizations
specific to Samsung devices (and a different name). You could download the
pure Android Accessibility Suite
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.marvin.tal
kback&hl=en_US> from Google (new name for TalkBack packaged with other
Google accessibility features), but I'm not sure if the Samsung device will
recognize it. I can test later today.
So you should be able to test with the built in screen reader on Samsung,
but you might get slightly different results if it is not based on the most
current version of TalkBalk (currently v7.2.0.220693075, at least on my
pixel 2 with the latest Android 9 security update)
Thankx.
Joe Humbert, CPWA
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Subject: [WebAIM] Talkback vs Voice assistant
Dear members,
I would like to hear your opinion on using which screen reader for
accessibility testing in android platform. Particularly Samsung.
Samsung comes with default screen reader i.e. voice access. Other devices
have talkback as the default screen reader. While performing accessibility
testing in Samsung device, should we use talkback? Or the default one i.e.
voice access.
Thanks and regards
Ram
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Thanks and Regards
Ramakrishnan
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From: Steve Green
Date: Fri, Dec 21 2018 8:55AM
Subject: Re: Talkback vs Voice assistant
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I thought Talkback was installed on all Samsung devices but I recently found out it isn't. We have 25 Samsung phones and tablets and I recently had to install Talkback on a couple of them. I don't recall which models they were but they are likely to be Galaxy S6 or newer because we were using them for user testing.
Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd
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Hi Ram,
The built -n screen reader on Samsung is TalkBack with some customizations specific to Samsung devices (and a different name). You could download the pure Android Accessibility Suite <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.marvin.tal
kback&hl=en_US> from Google (new name for TalkBack packaged with other Google accessibility features), but I'm not sure if the Samsung device will recognize it. I can test later today.
So you should be able to test with the built in screen reader on Samsung, but you might get slightly different results if it is not based on the most current version of TalkBalk (currently v7.2.0.220693075, at least on my pixel 2 with the latest Android 9 security update)
Thankx.
Joe Humbert, CPWA
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Subject: [WebAIM] Talkback vs Voice assistant
Dear members,
I would like to hear your opinion on using which screen reader for accessibility testing in android platform. Particularly Samsung.
Samsung comes with default screen reader i.e. voice access. Other devices have talkback as the default screen reader. While performing accessibility testing in Samsung device, should we use talkback? Or the default one i.e.
voice access.
Thanks and regards
Ram
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Thanks and Regards
Ramakrishnan
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From: Patrick H. Lauke
Date: Fri, Dec 21 2018 12:10PM
Subject: Re: Talkback vs Voice assistant
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On 21/12/2018 15:55, Steve Green wrote:
> I thought Talkback was installed on all Samsung devices but I recently found out it isn't. We have 25 Samsung phones and tablets and I recently had to install Talkback on a couple of them. I don't recall which models they were but they are likely to be Galaxy S6 or newer because we were using them for user testing.
Incidentally, I tried to get some information from the Samsung Developer
Relations team some time ago about Voice Assistant - to determine if
it's somehow a fork of TalkBack, and to see if there's any more
documentation about its capabilities and limitations...but
unfortunately, I've so far come up dry.
P
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From: Rohith paul
Date: Wed, Dec 26 2018 12:15AM
Subject: Re: Talkback vs Voice assistant
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Hey Ram ,
My suggestion would be to go for ( Talkback ) testing & then go with
( voice access ) .This would give a fair understanding of both
screen-reader behaviour .
Thanks & regards ,
Rohit
On 12/22/18, Patrick H. Lauke < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> On 21/12/2018 15:55, Steve Green wrote:
>> I thought Talkback was installed on all Samsung devices but I recently
>> found out it isn't. We have 25 Samsung phones and tablets and I recently
>> had to install Talkback on a couple of them. I don't recall which models
>> they were but they are likely to be Galaxy S6 or newer because we were
>> using them for user testing.
>
> Incidentally, I tried to get some information from the Samsung Developer
> Relations team some time ago about Voice Assistant - to determine if
> it's somehow a fork of TalkBack, and to see if there's any more
> documentation about its capabilities and limitations...but
> unfortunately, I've so far come up dry.
>
> P
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