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From: Levine, Suzanne
Date: Fri, Oct 18 2019 8:28AM
Subject: VPAT 2.3 Rev 508 vs WCAG
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Hi All,
I'm not a vendor but want to learn more about the VPAT options. When would =
a U.S. vendor use the VPAT 2.3 Rev 508<https://www.itic.org/dotAsset/9e1e88=
cd-0a47-4874-a168-339c31073cbe.docx> (27 pages and references the standards=
published 1/18/2017 and corrected 1/22/2018) vs the VPAT 2.3 Rev WCAG<http=
s://www.itic.org/dotAsset/33e09368-8104-44a0-96ab-a0fbfbad297e.docx> (16 pa=
ges)?

Thanks,
Suzanne



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From: Ryan E. Benson
Date: Fri, Oct 18 2019 10:04AM
Subject: Re: VPAT 2.3 Rev 508 vs WCAG
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Hello,

Section 508 is a law that the US Federal Government must follow. It takes
the WCAG standards, and adds some others, namely for hardware and software.
Vendors can use the VPAT WCAG to document their accessibility or their
product, but if you are or planning to sell to the US Federal Government,
you should do the 508 version.

--
Ryan E. Benson


On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:29 AM Levine, Suzanne < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Hi All,
> I'm not a vendor but want to learn more about the VPAT options. When would
> a U.S. vendor use the VPAT 2.3 Rev 508<
> https://www.itic.org/dotAsset/9e1e88cd-0a47-4874-a168-339c31073cbe.docx>
> (27 pages and references the standards published 1/18/2017 and corrected
> 1/22/2018) vs the VPAT 2.3 Rev WCAG<
> https://www.itic.org/dotAsset/33e09368-8104-44a0-96ab-a0fbfbad297e.docx>
> (16 pages)?
>
> Thanks,
> Suzanne
>
>
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From: Levine, Suzanne
Date: Fri, Oct 18 2019 10:58AM
Subject: Re: VPAT 2.3 Rev 508 vs WCAG
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Got it. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 9:04 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] VPAT 2.3 Rev 508 vs WCAG

Hello,

Section 508 is a law that the US Federal Government must follow. It takes the WCAG standards, and adds some others, namely for hardware and software.
Vendors can use the VPAT WCAG to document their accessibility or their product, but if you are or planning to sell to the US Federal Government, you should do the 508 version.

--
Ryan E. Benson


On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:29 AM Levine, Suzanne < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Hi All,
> I'm not a vendor but want to learn more about the VPAT options. When
> would a U.S. vendor use the VPAT 2.3 Rev 508<
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> 1/22/2018) vs the VPAT 2.3 Rev WCAG<
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> Thanks,
> Suzanne
>
>
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From: glen walker
Date: Fri, Oct 18 2019 11:24AM
Subject: Re: VPAT 2.3 Rev 508 vs WCAG
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Also note that the Section 508 version of the VPAT includes the WCAG
section too. So you have four options:

1. WCAG - includes the WCAG tables (3 tables for A, AA, and AAA - most
people delete the AAA table)
2. Section 508 - includes WCAG and Sec508
3. EN 301 549 - includes WCAG and EN 301 549
4. International - includes WCAG, Sec508, and EN 301 549

So all of them have WCAG. Which one you choose depends on why you're
filling it out.

If you only have US customers and they're not government agencies, then the
WCAG version might be sufficient.
As Ryan noted, if you have Federal (and sometimes State or Local)
government customers, then 508 is probably needed.
If you do any business in Europe, then EN 301 549 is probably needed.

To cover all situations, the "international" version might be a good idea.
It's not exactly "international". It's really US (Sec508) and Europe (EN
301 549). If Russia or Japan or Australia had their own requirements,
they're not really covered in the VPAT other than what WCAG covers. The
international version is a bit of a beast. Ignoring the 10 pages of
instructions at the beginning, it's 40 pages of documentation. The
language of the requirements can take a bit of getting used to.

If you decide on the Sec508 version, it's not too much more work to do the
international version. Some info in the Sec508 sections is repeated in the
EN 301 549 sections.

Glen

From: joe@a11yeval.com
Date: Fri, Oct 18 2019 1:28PM
Subject: Re: VPAT 2.3 Rev 508 vs WCAG
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Section 508 VPAT is often used in higher education as well. I know this
because my company just helped a higher ed vendor create a VPAT and had to
add a missing section that they requested that we normally remove.

Joe Humbert


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Also note that the Section 508 version of the VPAT includes the WCAG section
too. So you have four options:

1. WCAG - includes the WCAG tables (3 tables for A, AA, and AAA - most
people delete the AAA table) 2. Section 508 - includes WCAG and Sec508 3. EN
301 549 - includes WCAG and EN 301 549 4. International - includes WCAG,
Sec508, and EN 301 549

So all of them have WCAG. Which one you choose depends on why you're
filling it out.

If you only have US customers and they're not government agencies, then the
WCAG version might be sufficient.
As Ryan noted, if you have Federal (and sometimes State or Local) government
customers, then 508 is probably needed.
If you do any business in Europe, then EN 301 549 is probably needed.

To cover all situations, the "international" version might be a good idea.
It's not exactly "international". It's really US (Sec508) and Europe (EN
301 549). If Russia or Japan or Australia had their own requirements,
they're not really covered in the VPAT other than what WCAG covers. The
international version is a bit of a beast. Ignoring the 10 pages of
instructions at the beginning, it's 40 pages of documentation. The language
of the requirements can take a bit of getting used to.

If you decide on the Sec508 version, it's not too much more work to do the
international version. Some info in the Sec508 sections is repeated in the
EN 301 549 sections.

Glen
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From: glen walker
Date: Fri, Oct 18 2019 1:42PM
Subject: Re: VPAT 2.3 Rev 508 vs WCAG
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Right on Joe. That's why my comment about the Sec508 also include "State
and Local" governments. Schools sometimes fall into those categories

State and Local also falls under Title II of the ADA whereas higher ed is
Title III

I can certainly see a higher ed organization requesting a Sec508 VPAT.
Good point.

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> Section 508 VPAT is often used in higher education as well. I know this
> because my company just helped a higher ed vendor create a VPAT and had to
> add a missing section that they requested that we normally remove.
>
> Joe Humbert
>
>

From: William O'Donnell
Date: Fri, Oct 18 2019 1:46PM
Subject: Re: VPAT 2.3 Rev 508 vs WCAG
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Thanks, that is what I thought.
Thanks


On 10/18/19, glen walker < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Right on Joe. That's why my comment about the Sec508 also include "State
> and Local" governments. Schools sometimes fall into those categories
>
> State and Local also falls under Title II of the ADA whereas higher ed is
> Title III
>
> I can certainly see a higher ed organization requesting a Sec508 VPAT.
> Good point.
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:29 PM < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
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>> Section 508 VPAT is often used in higher education as well. I know this
>> because my company just helped a higher ed vendor create a VPAT and had
>> to
>> add a missing section that they requested that we normally remove.
>>
>> Joe Humbert
>>
>>
> > > > >


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From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Fri, Oct 18 2019 2:08PM
Subject: Re: VPAT 2.3 Rev 508 vs WCAG
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Hi Suzanne, it depends on which organization you are selling your products into. The US government must follow the Section 508 standard in their procurement, however, I have seen some federal agencies sending out the WCAG version for responses. The WCAG version may not be sufficient for those following 508 or 508 like standards such as some states and educational institutions. This is because 508 specifically calls out authoring tool capabilities and documentation and has some additional software requirements when the product or services is software. Hardware is not covered by WCAG at all.

For those not following 508 or the EU standards and only WCAG - the WCAG version would be sufficient. If you need to follow 508 and WCAG 2.1 then you would need to use the international version as the 508 version does not include WCAG 2.1.
I am presenting a free webinar on this topic on November 5th.
https://www.levelaccess.com/webinar-reporting-accessibility-with-vpat-2-a-guide-for-vendors/

Jonathan

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Hi All,
I'm not a vendor but want to learn more about the VPAT options. When would a U.S. vendor use the VPAT 2.3 Rev 508<https://www.itic.org/dotAsset/9e1e88cd-0a47-4874-a168-339c31073cbe.docx> (27 pages and references the standards published 1/18/2017 and corrected 1/22/2018) vs the VPAT 2.3 Rev WCAG<https://www.itic.org/dotAsset/33e09368-8104-44a0-96ab-a0fbfbad297e.docx> (16 pages)?

Thanks,
Suzanne



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