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Re: Proper mark-up (was Re: Speech output for a Trip Planner)

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From: Jennifer Sutton
Date: Jun 6, 2008 1:10PM

Keith and all:

This will teach me to post about a site without carefully re-looking
at it, first.

Sorry, folks. I guess this is a textbook case of:
"when you need what a site has to offer, you make it work." And
"if you find what you need, then maybe you don't remember very
clearly what it took to get at the info."

This is a reminder for me that I surf with two parts of my brain --
the tester part and the "get the job done" part.

Clearly, only one part of that combination has been engaged when I
have used this site.

So, it's far from perfect . . . very far.

Proper markup is good -- ALWAYS good!

Jennifer
At 10:03 AM 6/6/2008, you wrote:

>On Jun 6, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Jennifer Sutton wrote:
>
> > To bring the subject back to trip planners, I will not claim that
> > it's perfect, but I find:
> > www.511.org
> >
> > quite usable and useful with my screen reader of choice, Window-Eyes.
> >
>
>I find it interesting that you describe 511.org as usable and useful.
>
>I took a quick look at a couple of random pages off of the top menu,
>"Transit > List of Transit Providers" and "Transit > All Nighter Bus
>Service", and noticed that little to none of the main content on
>either of those pages is marked up with the kind of structural
>elements that we are so often reminded is *key* to having the content
>be "usable".
>
>For instance,there are no <h> levels tags. Subheads are wrapped in
>STRONG and sized up through a "class=titlelarge" span. A number of
>sections that ought to be lists are just paragraphs with line returns.
>
>Not that I plan on abandoning proper structural mark-up, but I would
>have thought that a site like this would have been considered a
>textbook case of failure in terms of accessibility/usability,
>particularly for a screen reader. Clearly, for someone at least, it
>is not.
>
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>Student Affairs Communications Services
>San Diego State University
>San Diego, CA 92182-7444
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