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Re: JAWS 9 - Reading TITLEs of Links

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From: Paul Collins
Date: Mar 12, 2009 4:50AM


Thanks for your replies. I do remember seeing your study a few years ago Steve. Good stuff.

I guess I'll just stick to what I'm doing then. Wanted to check if something had changed I wasn't aware of!

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From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Steven Faulkner
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:40 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] JAWS 9 - Reading TITLEs of Links

Hi paul,

a small study i did some years back:
http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/articles/WE05/survey.html

indicated that of the users surveyed used the default settings, so did not get the title attribute content.

regards
steve

2009/3/12 Paul Collins < <EMAIL REMOVED> >:
> I'm wondering how many screen reader users actually turn that function on, or stick to the default? Would have been a great question for the WebAIM Screen Reader Survey.
>
> I still avoid using titles for that reason - if I add important information in the title area, I assume it won't be read out by the majority of assistive software users.
>
> Does anyone know the stats on this?
> Cheers
>
>
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> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Cliff
> Tyllick
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:29 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] JAWS 9 - Reading TITLEs of Links
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> Why not put the information into the alt text of the image? JAWS will read alt text, right?
>
> Cliff Tyllick
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>>>> "Randall Pope" < <EMAIL REMOVED> > 3/11/2009 3:30 PM >>>
> Hi David,
>
> If you are using Firefox, that is probably the reason why. I personally have never seen the title attribute display in Firefox, only in IE. But then I'm not a JAW user.
>
> So this bring up the question: Why use the title attribute?
>
> With Warm Regards,
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of David
> Ashleydale
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:04 PM
> To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> Subject: [WebAIM] JAWS 9 - Reading TITLEs of Links
>
> I just did a little JAWS 9 test and I discovered that JAWS won't read the TITLE attribute of a link if the link contains an image -- even if I've configured JAWS to read link TITLEs instead of link text.
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> When I replaced the image with text and asked JAWS to read it to me, it read the TITLE of the link. I put the image back in and it read the ALT attribute of the image.
>
> It seems to me that if I've specifically configured JAWS to only read link TITLEs to me, it should do so regardless of what the link contains.
>
> Is this a known JAWS 9 bug? Does anyone know if this is fixed in JAWS 10?
>
> Thanks,
> David Ashleydale
>