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From: Patrick Burke
Date: Apr 7, 2011 2:39PM

Hi Greg,

I'm another screen reader user, somewhat late to
this party ... (Jaws 12, Firefox 4.)

The biggest difference on the two U of Illinois
pages is that the ARIA markup lets the screen
reading software know that these are not normal
links (see Birkir's original comments). The first
page identifies Crust, Veggies etc. as "tabs".
The second example includes a message such as
"Delivery Tab, expanded Delivery", announcing the
state of each tab. (Although at first "collapsed
crust" sounds like a baking mishap, not a markup status message...)

The keyboard commands described on the example
pages work to allow extra maneuvering within the tab sets.

Hope that's useful,

Patrick

At 08:23 AM 4/6/2011, Greg Gamble wrote:
>Hello All,
>
>I'm the one who asked Angela to send a request
>for the Screen reads help ( no account at the time )
>
>I have a couple of questions, sorry if they've been answered before ...
>
>So when a person using a screen reader
>encounters an accordion type of control, where
>the content is hidden from a sited user but is
>still visible in the source, they cannot see
>inside of them or know when they are opening?
>Reading up on support for ARIA lead me to the following ...
>
>I found this on handling some of the issues that have been brought up:
>http://test.cita.illinois.edu/aria/tabpanel/tabpanel1.php
>
>http://test.cita.illinois.edu/aria/tabpanel/tabpanel2.php
>
> ... do these examples work better than the
> original example, as far as letting a screen
> reader user know what is happening?
>
>http://www.sohtanaka.com/web-design/examples/toggle/bad.htm
>
>Greg Gamble
>SBCTC - Olympia | Information Services
>p - 360-704-4376
> think before printing
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Jeevan Reddy
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:10 AM
>To: WebAIM Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] can screenreader user please test expanding content?
>
>Hi Angela,
> The Markup is fine, still the symantics
> of this Jquery/CSS expanding content is not conveyed to AT.
>I've tested with NVDA V2011.1 on Firefox 3.6 and Windows 7.
>it's working well with keyboard, but the screen
>Reader user has no idea what was happened when
>he/she clicked on it, i.e wether it is expanded or closed.
>
>using well heading markup will help once the
>Screen Reader user used the content couple of
>times. so i suggest you to convey the user the
>state of hte widget. one way of doing it is
>ARIA. ofcourse older browser browsers doesn't
>support ARIA still atleast some users can receive well accessible information.
>
>On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Angela French < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello,
> > I am hoping that a screen reader user on this list would be willing to
> > test the accessibility of this jQuery/CSS
> expanding content implementation.
> >
> > http://www.sohtanaka.com/web-design/examples/toggle/bad.htm
> >
> > Thank you very much,
> >
> >
> > Angela French
> > Internet Specialist
> > State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
> > 360-704-4316
> > <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > http://www.checkoutacollege.com<;http://www.checkoutacollege.com/>;
> >
> >