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Re: can screenreader user please test expanding content?

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From: Angela French
Date: Apr 8, 2011 9:21AM

Thank you. If we implement that method, we will certainly add that!

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From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Tania
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] can screenreader user please test expanding content?

normally as a screenreader user, after hitting enter on a link and nothing seem to happen, i would arrow down to check whether there were new text.

if you had indicated that hitting enter on a link would open additional info just before the links would be great.

rgds
tania

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From: "Angela French" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: "'WebAIM Discussion List'" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] can screenreader user please test expanding content?


> Thank you Birkir. In your opinion is it problematic that the JAWS user
> doesn't realize that the new text has been revealed? In other words, is
> this expanding text just a display technique that is convenient for
> sighted users, but has little if no impact on screen reader users? If the
> "hidden" text is available to you, does it matter that it was hidden until
> the link was clicked on? In other words, how transparent is it to you that
> this expanding content block is even being used? Also, I'm wondering, I
> have read in the past that not all screen readers support display:none ,
> or that this may be a configuration issue on your end. Is the block of
> text that is styled display:none really unavailable to you until you
> click on the linked <h2> headline, or can you just skip by the linked
> headline and read the copy that follows?
>
> Angela
>
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> From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:39 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] can screenreader user please test expanding content?
>
> Angela
>
> To clarify what happens (IE8, Jaws 12 with latest update, Windows 7).
> I open the link and load the page.
> The page shows title, a heading level 1 sentence and then 4 links, each
> level 2.
> I just see the link text, no indication of any kind that these links
> represent anything special, other than that this is a link and a heading,
> so the natural tendency, for me anyway, is to hit enter on the link to see
> what happens.
> For each of the link I selected it and hit enter.
> There is no announcement of any changes, no autorefresh or cursor movement
> of any kind, but when I arrow down I see the text now until I come to the
> next link.
> The same event happens for all of them.
> I am just about to study ARIA myself so I cannot give you any smrt insight
> into how it would work for you, but I would imagine that some type of view
> or control (like treeview) could be used here with states equal expanded
> or collapsed.
> Another possibility would be to move the focus/cursor to the first letter
> of the displayed text, with Javascript.
> (but this can be confusing for screen reader users, I certainly don't like
> it when the cursor takes off on me and moves without me telling it to).
> Could you simply add text to the link that is hidden but tells screen
> readers something like (hit enter to expand text below this link)?
> None of these are fantastic ideas and I will be urious to see what the
> pros do, but at lesat now you know how the screen reader behaves, at least
> Jaws 12.
> hth
> -b
>