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From: John E Brandt
Date: May 23, 2011 8:18PM


Hi Adam,

I don't know much about Dribble and how it would be helpful to a discussion
about accessible web design. From time to time people in this list do post
links to sites real or in development for feedback. Having the actual site
is often more valuable than having just a screen shot.

If you are on LinkedIn, there is an Web Accessibility group that is fairly
active and has over 1000 members. I have that group set to e-mail me an
archive version about once per week which often has information that I don't
see here on the list.

~j

John E. Brandt
www.jebswebs.com
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207-622-7937
Augusta, Maine, USA

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 74, Issue 17

Hi

Hi all i am interested to make a site where user can post / comment on
accessibility issues , section 508 and even post screen shots of code/ and
comps. something like dribbble but for accessibility , seems like there are
many people in this group who would be able to benefit from open discussions
about problems for accessible sites . Let me know what you guys think? and i
can send out invites (private) only to professionals who are interested in
web accessibility . It would be then an invite system that im thinking off ,
Pleas do let me know your thoughts and if this idea could be useful

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> 1. Re: [?? Probable Spam] UNLABELLED GRAPHICS/PHOTOS (Tania)
> 2. Re: [?? Probable Spam] UNLABELLED GRAPHICS/PHOTOS
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Tania < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 11:21:06 +0800
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] [?? Probable Spam] UNLABELLED GRAPHICS/PHOTOS
> our blind group had gone to meet the management to highlight problems.
> when they were unresponsive, we had gone to the media about it.
> we have a toothless accessibility act ; even many govt websites are
> inaccessible. this is the third world- we face ignorance, indifference
> and outright discrimination here .
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] [?? Probable Spam] UNLABELLED GRAPHICS/PHOTOS
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> When it occurs I usually will contact the company or organization that
> owns the site explaining the specific issues that I encountered and
> when possible how it might be remedied.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tania" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] [?? Probable Spam] UNLABELLED GRAPHICS/PHOTOS
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>
> this group has often discussed best practices in making websites
> accessible from developer's angle. the other side of accessibility is
> what users of assistive tech can do when they encounter such inaccessible
sites.
> does this very knowledgeable group have any answers to this?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hicks"
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 7:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] [?? Probable Spam] UNLABELLED GRAPHICS/PHOTOS
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> Please ignore my reply, which was written before I had received the
> important info about this!
> So, it is part of the Login Procedure... can't get more critical than
> that, that is for sure good day
>
> Le 19/04/2011 09:41, John Hicks a écrit :
>
>> Are you sure that the screen reader needs to know about these graphics?
>> Sounds like they are neither functional nor information bearing to me.
>>
>> Are they just background images and/or decoration?
>>
>>
>> Le 18/04/2011 09:48, Tania a écrit :
>>
>>>
>>> I came across a website that does not label graphics/photos with alt
>>> text. They used empty quote marks like this:
>>>
>>> alt= ""
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The graphics were positioned using CSS.
>>>
>>> With the above combination, I found that
>>>
>>> 1.. JAWS do not identify the graphics at all when navigating with
>>> arrow keys.
>>> 2.. Clicking on the graphic with a mouse and invoking the JAWS
>>> 'LABEL GRAPHIC function' produced message that said "the cursor is
>>> not positioned on a graphic."
>>>
>>>
>>> QUESTION:
>>>
>>> In such an instance, other than asking the website to rectify codes
>>> in their webpage, how else can screenreader users get label for the
>>> graphics ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> tania
>>>