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Re: change in forms mode behaviour in JAWS 12

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From: Ryan Hemphill
Date: Dec 12, 2011 1:15PM


Your bug is directly related to the form itself. I have not tracked down
exactly what can be done to override this problem, but you will note that
focus on any form element (not link, mind you) will automatically trigger
the auto-read that you were talking about.

I agree that it's an annoying one and thanks for bringing it up, as I have
been seeing similar things here and there - but not in a simpler page like
yours, so thanks for that.

I'm going to hammer away at this a little more. No promises, mind you -
but with a little luck I may figure out how to resolve this.

Thanks again for sharing!

Ryan

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Ryan Hemphill < <EMAIL REMOVED>
> wrote:

> Which browsers are you testing on?
>
> Ryan
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:53 AM, David Farough <
> <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Carin:
>> I see your problem and have a suggestion.
>>
>> This problem seems to occur when your verbosity settings are set to
>> either beginner mode or intermediate.
>>
>> Therefore an easy but unnecessarily drastic solution would be to set
>> your verbosity level to Advanced verbosity for that site.
>>
>> Another solution would be to configure the individual verbosity
>> settings in beginner or intermediate modes to uncheck the control group
>> name setting for that level. This might potentially cause you grief in
>> some forms that use fieldsets to identify groupings of fields. This
>> however will have the benefit of changing jaws behaviour in a minimal
>> way.
>>
>> If you need further clarification and or instructions, feel free to
>> contact me directly. My information appears below.
>> If you think anyone on Blindtech would be interested, feel free to
>> forward this.
>>
>> Incidentally if getting Jaws13 is an option, this behaviour has been
>> reduced. Now when you tab between fields, Jaws now speaks "landmark
>> region" before each field. At least it's moving in the right
>> direction.
>>
>>
>> David Farough
>> Application Accessibility Coordinator/coordonateur de l'accessibilité
>> Information Technology Services Directorate /
>> Direction des services d'information technologiques
>> Public Service Commission / Commission de la fonction publique
>> Email / Courriel: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> Tel. / Tél: (613) 992-2779 >>> CARIN HEADRICK
>> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > 09:34 AM Monday, December 12, 2011 >>>
>> I've noticed something that started new in JAWS 12 and hoped some
>> genius here might have a solution. If you're in forms mode and are
>> tabbing between fields, JAWS 12 has become uber chatty, reading all the
>> way down from the main landmark to where you are, rather than just
>> reading the bleeping form label. I've seen this on 3 separate machines
>> with 3 separate versions of windows.
>>
>> Don't believe me? zip on over to www.easychirp.com with anything below
>> JAWS 12. Tab between the username and password fields. Then go there
>> with JAWS 12 and do the same. You will notice a whole lotta readin'
>> goin' on that we just don't need. A main landmark has to be present for
>> this to happen.
>>
>> So, what the bleep new JAWS setting would govern this and how can I
>> make it behave like older JAWS? Although I'm usually an arrower rather
>> than a tabber, there are some circumstances where I'd like to stay in
>> forms mode thankyaverymuch. This new chatty Kathy style behaviour makes
>> it hard to do so.
>>
>>
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