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Re: Low vision simulation

From: Robyn Hunt
Date: May 30, 2012 1:33PM

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Hi, 
It concerns me a little that this discussion seems to be all about
technology, rather than people and users. Low vision comes in many forms
and presents in many different ways. The best way to find out about low
vision is to talk to people with low vision. We will describe what works
and why. Real world testing with real people in real situations is
effective. Tools may be useful but are no substitute for connecting with
users.  
Cheers 
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Today's Topics: 
   1. Re: Low Vision Simulation (Birkir R. Gunnarsson) 
   2. Re: Low Vision Simulation (Elle) 
   3. Re: Low Vision Simulation (Tim Harshbarger) 
   4. Re: [NVDA] #2390: NVDA doesn't handle role=dialog
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      supporting ARIA attributes according to
spec (Bryan Garaventa) 
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Low Vision Simulation 
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Elle 
Can you use this software on the iPad with a web page. A colleague
of 
mine has often used this with a camera to demonstrate the visually 
impaired experience to people, but I am not sure if you can use it 
with the phone's browser to simulate the web browsing experience. 
If so, could you recommend a particularly good website to demo with 
this software, ideally something like the BAD (before and after 
demonstration) website with the same page in an inaccessible 
font/color and then with fixes applied. 
Thanks 
-B 
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>> This is one that friends recommended to me that I've found
really helpful 
>> (iPhone, iPad app): 
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> Thanks, Elle, I'm checking it out now! 
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Low Vision Simulation 
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Birkir: 
I believe VisionSim only works with camera mode; in other words, I use
it 
on my iPhone to take a photo and see the results of that simulated
low 
vision disability.  However, I will keep looking for something
that 
operates like VisCheck (
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a URL and displays the results that way. 
 
Thanks, 
Elle 
 
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> Elle 
> 
> Can you use this software on the iPad with a web page. A colleague
of 
> mine has often used this with a camera to demonstrate the
visually 
> impaired experience to people, but I am not sure if you can use
it 
> with the phone's browser to simulate the web browsing
experience. 
> If so, could you recommend a particularly good website to demo
with 
> this software, ideally something like the BAD (before and after 
> demonstration) website with the same page in an inaccessible 
> font/color and then with fixes applied. 
> Thanks 
> -B 
> 
> On 5/29/12, David Ashleydale < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote: 
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> >> This is one that friends recommended to me that I've found
really 
> helpful 
> >> (iPhone, iPad app): 
> >>
<a href="http://brailleinstitute.org/MobileApps/VisionSim.aspx" eudora="autourl">
http://brailleinstitute.org/MobileApps/VisionSim.aspx<;/a> 
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> > Thanks, Elle, I'm checking it out now! 
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Low Vision Simulation 
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The app relies on the camera in the iPad so you won't be able to use it
for a web page unless you have it pointed at a monitor. 
However, once you are viewing the image on the camera, you can take a
picture of it. 
The app is also free. 
I have it on my iPhone.  While my sight is such that I can't tell
any difference using the app, it does make for a great way to talk about
accessibility and disability.  When you pick a filter, it explains
some of the aspects of that type of visual impairment.  You can then
let someone use the app to look at things and then start talking about
accessible design and how people with various types of disabilities use
technology--especially since you can then turn on voiceover or show them
the accessibility settings. 
I think the app makes a great way to start a conversation.  And you
definitely know your audience is hooked once they start asking questions
about things they are looking at or making comments--"The colours
seem a bit washed out." Or "that is harder to read."

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