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Re: Is use of <label> and title redundant?

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From: Michael R. Burks
Date: Nov 9, 2012 5:56PM


I would like to add that we should code to the standards, not to a specific
type of Assistive Technology.

Sincerely,

Mike Burks


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It has not been my experience that title attributes work well with Dragon

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Léonie Watson wrote:
> Most screen readers don't acknowledge the title attribute by default,
> although they can be configured to do so. VoiceOver is the exception I
> think.
ZoomText (v9.5 at least) will read the title attribute instead of the label.
The same goes with links with a title attribute, it reads the title versus
linking words.

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Ryan E. Benson


On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Léonie Watson < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Angela French wrote:
> " Is the use of a <label> tag to identify association with a text
> field and the simultaneous use of the title attribute in the <input>
> tag redundant, such that it should be avoided? In other words, would
> a screen reader say the word twice?"
>
> Most screen readers don't acknowledge the title attribute by default,
> although they can be configured to do so. VoiceOver is the exception I
> think.
>
> Assuming the label is visible, it's worth asking what value the title
> attribute brings in this case?
>
>
> Léonie.
>
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> French
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> Subject: [WebAIM] Is use of <label> and title redundant?
>
> Hello,
> Is the use of a <label> tag to identify association with a text field
> and the simultaneous use of the title attribute in the <input> tag
> redundant, such that it should be avoided? In other words, would a
> screen reader say the word twice?
>
> Example:
>
> <label for="searchfield" class="offscreen"> Search</label><input
> id="searchfield" type="text" title="Search">
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Angela French
> Internet Specialist
> State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
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