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Re: Is use of <label> and title redundant?

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From: Sailesh Panchang
Date: Nov 20, 2012 12:08PM

Patrick,
> Though yes, it's stated at the end of that part
Please refer to the description for H65.
And I can only reiterate:
Title is simply not the recommended technique in the circumstance.
Not marking up visible text as a label and inserting a title attribute
is a failure of SC 3.3.2.
Label helps other user groups as I pointed out earlier. If you wish to
ignore them, it is your prerogative.
Sailesh Panchang


On 11/20/12, Patrick H. Lauke < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> On 20/11/2012 18:48, Sailesh Panchang wrote:
>> James,
>>>> my opinion this meets 3.3.2.
>> And I pointed out documentation that does not support that view.
>> Certainly techniques and understanding docs are not normative and are
>> guidance docs.
>> The 'How to meet' doc suggests what is appropriate in different circs.
>> and in fact is a guide to how to meet the SC.
>
> And it, as well, points out that "Note that all techniques are
> informative". the "How to Meet" simply collates the SCs and the current
> list of techniques.
>
>> Label text that is not marked up as a label is not 'associated' with
>> the control.
>> I never said title does not work for screen reader / magnifier users.
>> Title is simply not the recommended technique in the circumstance.
>
> It's still one of the sufficient techniques listed
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/#qr-minimize-error-cues
>
> "H65: Using the title attribute to identify form controls when the label
> element cannot be used "
>
> Though yes, it's stated at the end of that part
>
> "The techniques at the end of the above list should be considered "last
> resort" and only used when the other techniques cannot be applied to the
> page. The earlier techniques are preferred because they increase
> accessibility to a wider user group."
>
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