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Re: a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone file it

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From: Lucy Greco
Date: Jan 8, 2014 5:07PM

Well this code sample is the one I have do you think its worth sending if
so please send me wear to submit it Lucy

Lucia Greco
Web Access Analyst
IST-Campus Technology Services
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Bryan Garaventa
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 4:02 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone file it

It's supposed to. If it doesn't and you have a code sample that you can
use to demonstrate the problem, it's worth submitting to Apple.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lucy Greco" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone file it


> Hello:
> Again just as a quick ask should voice over support the speaking of the
> expand state and or tell you it does not on my system. Mavericks most
> recent versions again Lucy
>
> Lucia Greco
> Web Access Analyst
> IST-Campus Technology Services
> University of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Birkir R.
> Gunnarsson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 3:08 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone file
it
>
> Testing this with Jaws 15 and FF24, I observed the following.
> Clicking expand/collapse links works consistently every time.
> If a section is expanded and I refresh the page, the section
> collapses. That is not a Jaws problem, it collapses also visually in
> the browser.
> Is this the root of the problem Lucy?
> We can get to the bottom of this.
> Thanks
> -Birkir
> Accessibility SME | Deque Systems
>
>
> On 1/8/14, Bryan Garaventa < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> It works fine for me. I tested it using JAWS15 in IE 8 9 and 10 and FF,
> and
>> it's not having any problems. I also refreshed the page, reloaded the
> url,
>> and again that works too.
>>
>> Which version of JAWS, browser, and OS are you seeing this on?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: cb
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone
> file
>> it
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback. The trigger function now includes
>> preventDefault(). Unfortunately it didn't solve Lucy's problem
though.
>> A new version is attached in case anyone with Jaws wants to try to
>> duplicate what she's experiencing.
>>
>> Caroline
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Bryan Garaventa
>> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> > The script is missing a preventDefault() which may be contributing
> to
>> the
>> > problem. This should be added to prevent page refreshing whenever
> DOM
>> level
>> > dynamic content is rendered via a triggering element.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Lucy Greco" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> > To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 1:18 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone
> file
>> it
>> >
>> >
>> >> Great please do test and remember it works the first time you open
> the
>> >> expand just not after that
>> >>
>> >> Lucia Greco
>> >> Web Access Analyst
>> >> IST-Campus Technology Services
>> >> University of California, Berkeley
>> >> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
>> >> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> >> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Birkir
> R.
>> >> Gunnarsson
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 1:14 PM
>> >> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone
> file
>> it
>> >>
>> >> Lucy
>> >>
>> >> I am able to use Jaws reliably on this demo page I came up with
> with
>> >> Detlev Fisher, one that is on his site at:
>> >> http://www.3needs.org/en/testing/code/aria-expanded.html#
>> >>
>> >> I can check the demo later on, and if this is a bug I would be
> happy
>> to
>> >> help you file it. I am on the Jaws beta team, though I am not very
>> active.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 1/8/14, Lucy Greco < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> >>> Sorry about that here is the demo
>> >>>
>> >>> Lucia Greco
>> >>> Web Access Analyst
>> >>> IST-Campus Technology Services
>> >>> University of California, Berkeley
>> >>> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
>> >>> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Lucy Greco [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:56 PM
>> >>> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
>> >>> Subject: a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone file it
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello:
>> >>> We would like to give users of our campus accessible templates
> the
>> >>> ability to use an expandable and collapsible content area.
> Attached
>> is
>> >> the
>> >>> demo of what we have come up with so far. It works great in NVDA
>> and
>> >> not
>> >>> so good in jaws.
>> >>> The problem we have found in jaws is that jaws only indicates the
>> >>> expansion happens the first time the expand is clicked. In fact
if
>> you
>> >>> go back to the page a second time it won't say anything ever
> again.
>> >>> When this first happened I thought I was losing my mind but I
> tested
>> >>> on another computer and the same thing happened. My instinct is
> that
>> >>> jaws is the bad player in this game. Can someone else confirm
this
>> and
>> >>> if anyone on this list is on the jaws beta team could you file
> this
>> as
>> >>> a bug. I am really getting fed up with AT that does not
implement
>> >> standards appropriately.
>> >>> It's hard enough to get developers to code to standers and then
> when
>> >>> the AT does not work to the standers it's even harder. My new
> year's
>> >>> resolution is to shame AT products that don't come up to the mark
>> more
>> >>> grin Lucy Lucia Greco Web Access Analyst IST-Campus Technology
>> >>> Services University of California, Berkeley
>> >>> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
>> >>> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
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